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MIDDLE EAST
BEIRUT
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The 26-story Holiday Inn is on fire.
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Five star hotel operation
The third one is under fire.
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Were women and children also shot?
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Women and children too, yes.
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On the fifth day of the Battle of Hue...
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...Sailors growing stronger
left the united army...
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VIETNAM WAR
1964-72
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...and then the attack was launched...
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...empty and usable buildings
They proceeded through...
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...and one of these buildings is
It was the University of Hue.
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To protect ourselves
We were making plans...
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...��because� the situation is getting worse
It was getting desperate...
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...and we were ready to die with dignity.
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Part of war is madness,
Mostly insanity...
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...and the rest is schizophrenia.
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You ask yourself,
"Why am I here?"
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What is my purpose?
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What does this have to do with photography?
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And you keep asking these questions.
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You try to survive,
You try to take a photo.
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It's about you being there
You try to find justification.
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Then you think,
"What good will this do?
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"All of these people have already been killed."
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Before we get into these big conflicts...
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...there were many battles in my mind.
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And when I got there
I was even more confused.
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I tried to stay calm.
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I am obsessed with this subject of taking photographs.
I tried not to get carried away.
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This was something I had to do...
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...but how much permission did I have for this?
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What was going around my mind at that time...
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...there was a lot of hypocrisy.
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Really feel like being there
I didn't think whether it was true or not...
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...because sometimes...
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...the people who do all these bad things...
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...these are mine too
I thought I approved it...
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...which I definitely did not approve of.
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The first execution I ever saw in my life...
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...a few weeks ago at the Saigon market
killing many people...
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...of a bomber
It was his execution that took place at dawn.
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And there... All those photos...
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...and the journalists are all in the jeep
It was on it, one more person wouldn't fit in...
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...and I couldn't see anywhere,
But I saw the incident.
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The man drives a Volkswagen truck
They brought it in...
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...he went out and shouted,
"Anti-Americans."
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The firing squad shot him.
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A man came forward,
He grabbed her by the hair...
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...and shot him right in the brain.
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And as I stood there with my mouth open
I heard a man say...
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"Oh my god, that was amazing! Did you pull it off?"
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And I never forgot that day, it was 1965.
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And I didn't take a photo of it.
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about this situation
To the folks at The Sunday Times...
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...I didn't say anything...
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...��because� it's me
He will not be able to capture such a photo...
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They might have thought I was so amateur.
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But when I look back,
That man was killed...
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...to take your photo
I wonder if I have the right.
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Because in a way, public execution is for murder
It is not a milder strain.
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And I didn't take the picture.
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It's a very difficult time in London
You came from the past...
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...right?
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His first aim was to become a painter...
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...�uncommon
It seems like an ambition.
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This is a bit of a cowardly ambition
Wasn't it seen as?
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Yes, it was, because where I lived...
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...whoever you take...
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...they never avoid fighting.
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I was subjected to terrible beatings as a child.
I had to buy it.
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But while my father was alive...
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...to draw the kitchen wall
He would let me use...
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...and me to the wall
I glued pieces of paper together...
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...but sometimes I got it out of control,
that's why...
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... out of control
He produced blank pictures.
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I grew up in a slum...
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...so they put big nails in the walls...
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...�can flow and
We could hang things.
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Now I don't allow my children...
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...but my art career
It didn't take long because...
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...I won the Children's Art Scholarship.
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Then my father died, I had to work.
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FINSBURY PARK, 1959
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The children I grew up with
I took a series of photographs.
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They were involved in a police murder.
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Actually, they were not the ones who killed the police...
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...from Islington for murder...
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...was responsible for a rival gang.
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I gave these photos to The Observer.
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They wanted more, I took more,
They published the photos...
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...they gave me like 50 pounds
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In those days,
50 pounds where I come from...
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...it was the same as five weeks' salary.
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Then, you can actually say...
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...a love that will last a lifetime
I had entered a path of transformation.
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'Lords' of the Seven Sisters Road
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This is really for me
It was an amazing experience.
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Because you remember,
I didn't have any training...
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...I couldn't read properly,
I grew up in a violent place...
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...people mostly
how good...
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...for fighting, stealing, or breaking into society
In a place where he cares about what you hurt.
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To be honest,
opening of this magnificent door...
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...and it was like someone saying...
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"This is your ignorance, your bigotry
and 'freedom to refrain from violence.'
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It was incredible. from F�nsbury Park
I managed to escape.
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Always, the first unforgettable urban
I wondered how you took your photo.
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of youth and
Guv'nors in East London...
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The gang known as...
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...them standing in an abandoned house,
They are wonderfully surrounded by the building...
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...and directly from the building
How did he capture the look?
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This is the end of the gang wars
And it was a symbol of London's hardship.
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And here, within its own composition
We had a picture that was almost beautiful
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What this gang did
You may say how nice it is...
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...but he was connected,
He had sensitivity.
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And empathy,
It is something you cannot imitate.
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I gave this guy a good beating.
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He wanted to hit me with a brick.
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We have all been to a funeral.
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One of the local girls had committed suicide...
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...one of the guys I grew up with
Because of this, he stuck his head into the gas stove.
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We came from the funeral...
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...ran towards the car I was in
and hit the rearview mirror to turn it off.
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He was drinking in the street...
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...that's when I should have attacked him,
So while drinking...
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...because if you are in such a situation
It is very difficult for you to fight.
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And he picked up a brick, shouting at me
came and then...
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...I managed to hold the brick
and I turned the situation around.
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Where such important events take place...
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...like the 60s, 70s, 80s...
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I was lucky to grow up during ...periods.
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It was like it was prepared for me.
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And yes, suddenly
I decided to do something and did it.
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Just look at it and say "God I wish
"I wish I was there." I didn't think so.
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I said "I will go there" and I went.
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In the spring of 1961, President Kennedy
When he visited...
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...Paris was beautiful as always.
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I was in Paris with my wife, that is, my new husband.
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We had only been married a few weeks.
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I was like a fish out of water...
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...��because� I didn't know the language.
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And while we were in Paris,
I saw someone reading a newspaper...
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...the newspaper reported that an East German soldier
There was a photo.
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He was jumping over barbed wire.
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And in that period, that wire,
It was the only thing that separated them from the West.
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Of course the story gets stronger
and the tension was increasing.
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I looked at the photo, it was an unforgettable picture...
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...and I said to my wife...
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"When we return to England..."
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...I'm only 70 pounds
Even though he knew it was, I said...
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"Will you let me go to Berlin?"
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"Of course you can go." he said.
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East Germans will seal every hole
He had no protection.
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When a soldier is distracted...
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...in barbed wire
A hole was being opened...
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...and Khrushchev
Another slap was coming down.
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I called The Observer Newspaper...
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...to me "With your departure
We are not interested.” they said.
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And I said, "I got my ticket." I said.
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There was no task they could give me.
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I too have all your problems
The center is Friedrichstrasse...
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...I went to a place near it.
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Americans were up against Russians
and their tanks were also facing each other.
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At that time on Friedrichstrasse...
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...of the Berlin Wall
They were building the beginning.
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That's really it
It was the right place.
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Cameras East German
The police have...
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...harassed with reflective mirrors.
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And water hoses�,
Targets equipment.
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Still, our messengers...
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...despite all these conditions...
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...took extraordinary photographs.
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My camera equipment wasn't very good.
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I got it when I was in the Air Force
I had a camera.
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Let me take the photos I need...
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...it wasn't the type that would provide.
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But despite everything,
Using the camera by tilting it...
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...or holding it up...
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...I was solving the problem by doing funny things.
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A few days after I got there...
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...the wall rose very quickly
and the people could not escape.
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And on the other side of the wall,
hanging from buildings...
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...watching with binoculars
I looked at the East German soldiers...
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...they were also looking directly at me
and then, ��I thought...
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"They can't hurt me, ��because�
They are there and I am here."
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But it was exciting because
The Cold War was starting to get tense...
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...and the Russians have nothing to do with the West, and the West has nothing to do with it.
Preparations to fight the Russians...
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... had entered the period in which it was completed.
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What really matters is...
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...truly the world
The most important story of...
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...was that I was standing right next to him.
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And it was my choice...
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...me first time
It was these intuitions that took him there.
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I believe I used my brain in the right direction...
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...I was starting to show signs.
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I returned to England with a movie...
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...and The Observer
I worked in the darkroom...
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...and they saw the photos.
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They gave my story half a page.
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This story, after
In the news category...
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...was nominated for news photo of the year.
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I won the prize and after this...
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...The Observer made a contract with me.
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Later, In The Observer
I started to get much better jobs.
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Attends all kinds of political rallies and the like
I started going to the news.
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I wouldn't go to the east end of London...
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...and the uproar over Oswald Mosley
I had to take photos like .
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This is the first part of my career
its development and expansion...
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...it was a satisfactory situation.
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UNIVERSAL-INTERNATIONAL NEWS
CYPRUS CRISIS
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Allies Have Come to an End
Greek-Turkish Cause
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In Cyprus, which is a bomb ready to explode
There is a threat of large-scale war.
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Greek students, Greeks and Turks
until the problem between them is resolved...
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...peace on the island��� NATO soldiers
The one who imposes what must be provided...
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...UK and US joint proposal
protested.
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One dayInside myoffice at The Observer
I entered and the editor told me...
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"The civil war in Cyprus is for us
How about making news?" he asked.
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At that point in my life, I was ready.
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What I felt when I heard it...
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When I think of these words...
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...it was as if I had risen into the air...
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...it was like I was swept off my feet.
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I knew that a second door had been opened.
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�� war and terrorism hit Cyprus in December
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It was Boxing Day, 'British blood
He came to prevent it from falling.
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"I will do the best I can and
I will make a good impact,” I thought.
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"This was my great luck."
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I went to the Turkish side,
They were surrounded by the Greeks.
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I passed through the barricades on the road and sneaked in.
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I could hear the gunshots...
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...and for the first time in my life the enemy
I could hear the gunshot.
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Suddenly, like something out of a movie...
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...a man with a machine gun appeared...
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...�a raincoat on
And there was a flat hat.
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It looked like a Sicilian mafia
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And then people, in their heads
He started running with his cushions...
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...women and children, as if on cushions
As if it could stop bullets.
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This was my first war experience.
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What's going on,
Where does fire come from...
239
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...I should have evaluated very quickly.
240
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And as the days pass,
We stayed in these empty streets.
241
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There were fighting groups on the streets,
Turkish mistakes.
242
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Funny, intriguing things
It caught my eye.
243
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Behind the barricades
I remember a group of men...
244
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...almost like in the Spanish War
It was just like
245
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There were men at the barricades...
246
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...and they have incompatible old weapons in their hands
247
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Almost like a musket,
They were like museum pieces.
248
00:16:02,626 --> 00:16:07,917
But next to these guys
There was a very beautiful dog standing there.
249
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"Why did this happen to you...
250
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...when more serious things
"Are you going to return?" I thought.
251
00:16:21,334 --> 00:16:23,251
But to be honest...
252
00:16:23,334 --> 00:16:26,376
...these little things sometimes make you...
253
00:16:26,459 --> 00:16:29,667
...much bigger than what appears...
254
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...tells stories.
255
00:16:31,834 --> 00:16:34,501
So what I want to say here is...
256
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...we are talking about sensitivity.
257
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Then what I need to be aware of is,
I was learning a new trade.
258
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Humanity and its sufferings
I was learning the price.
259
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Now, four months later...
260
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...the armed forces of both sides...
261
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...of the UN trying to ensure peace
He turns a deaf ear to your attempts...
262
00:17:01,001 --> 00:17:05,542
...so the situation in Cyprus
It's still dangerous and complicated.
263
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Law and order of the UN
About restoration...
264
00:17:08,042 --> 00:17:10,876
...there's not much he can do.
265
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An entire town
Because he was attacked...
266
00:17:16,959 --> 00:17:18,417
...I saw you were evacuated...
267
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...anything, such as a school building
To a safer place
268
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The one who is lame and has two canes
There was also an old woman.
269
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He really couldn't move his feet...
270
00:17:29,584 --> 00:17:32,501
...and a British soldier
Not to lose his life...
271
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...and to hurry
He was trying to persuade her.
272
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I was with a friend,
"This is ridiculous," I said.
273
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That soldier and the old woman
I took a photo of it...
274
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...I downloaded the camera...
275
00:17:43,418 --> 00:17:45,626
...I caught this old woman with my arms...
276
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...as if the child fell out of the stroller
She was like a doll
277
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I just ran, ran with it.
I don't know why I did this...
278
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...but the shooting of that old woman and
I didn't want to see him die.
279
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And I returned to my position again,
as a photograph...
280
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...and I continued.
281
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But it felt good.
282
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There's only other people's misery
and their possible deaths...
283
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...a tyrant who is there to watch
It made me feel like I wasn't.
284
00:18:13,334 --> 00:18:15,459
There was a very thin line between them.
285
00:18:15,543 --> 00:18:19,793
By taking very scary photos
I was accused and people kept saying "No...
286
00:18:19,876 --> 00:18:21,793
...did you help anyone?"
they ask.
287
00:18:21,876 --> 00:18:25,584
Of course I did
But I don't want to brag about it.
288
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Sometimes my own conscience
I did it to relax.
289
00:18:45,459 --> 00:18:47,543
These little conflicts...
290
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...to the entire north of Cyprus,
He moved to the side where the Turks lived.
291
00:18:53,126 --> 00:18:55,876
I saw a soldier and asked me, "Are they dead?
Are you looking for it? he asked.
292
00:18:55,959 --> 00:18:57,584
"No, but what's going on?" I said.
293
00:18:57,668 --> 00:18:59,418
"There are some deaths." he said.
294
00:18:59,501 --> 00:19:01,668
"There is a death here..."
295
00:19:01,751 --> 00:19:03,918
...and there's more in that house." he said.
296
00:19:04,209 --> 00:19:06,043
I knocked on the door and knocked on the door.
297
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There was no answer, then...
298
00:19:09,834 --> 00:19:12,334
...I went in...
299
00:19:12,418 --> 00:19:17,126
...and the first thing I encountered was cold blood.
300
00:19:20,709 --> 00:19:23,168
This man was killed the day before...
301
00:19:23,251 --> 00:19:25,168
...and in the early hours of the morning...
302
00:19:25,251 --> 00:19:28,918
...the warmth of the sun,
He was entering the house through the glass door.
303
00:19:29,001 --> 00:19:31,626
I closed the door, and tiptoed into your room
I walked around...
304
00:19:31,793 --> 00:19:33,376
...and I found a corner for myself.
305
00:19:33,459 --> 00:19:36,418
I took the first pose and suddenly the door opened...
306
00:19:36,501 --> 00:19:39,209
...and while I'm scared,
The whole family rushed in.
307
00:19:41,709 --> 00:19:47,126
At that time he said, "They shouldn't have found me here.
It will make you angry.” I was thinking.
308
00:19:47,209 --> 00:19:51,501
I was stunned, it didn't happen, so did I
I continued taking photos
309
00:19:53,334 --> 00:19:56,209
Suddenly a woman went crazy
He started making jokes.
310
00:19:56,293 --> 00:20:01,126
The truth is that there is something dead under my feet
the person was her husband...
311
00:20:01,209 --> 00:20:03,751
...even it was her new husband,
It had only been a week since we got married.
312
00:20:03,834 --> 00:20:07,793
And the Greeks came the day before
attacked this community...
313
00:20:07,876 --> 00:20:10,834
...and these people� in this house
They killed him in cold blood.
314
00:20:18,001 --> 00:20:20,334
One day I went to a village...
315
00:20:20,668 --> 00:20:22,834
...I went early in the morning...
316
00:20:22,918 --> 00:20:27,959
...the Turk who died defending his villages
They were finding the bodies of their men.
317
00:20:28,043 --> 00:20:30,793
Then he went back to the village and
To women, their husbands...
318
00:20:30,876 --> 00:20:32,459
...they said he was killed.
319
00:20:32,543 --> 00:20:37,043
Afterwards, like in Goya paintings
lifting up their heads and praying to God...
320
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...you were seeing human landscapes.
321
00:20:39,376 --> 00:20:41,168
In many wars...
322
00:20:41,251 --> 00:20:44,543
...people's deep sorrow
and when they are in emotion...
323
00:20:44,626 --> 00:20:47,876
...they go up to see if they can see God.
I realized they were looking right...
324
00:20:47,959 --> 00:20:50,084
...you know, like asking for some help.
325
00:20:50,168 --> 00:20:53,459
You can also see this in Goya's drawings.
326
00:20:53,543 --> 00:20:57,001
While the poor man is being shot or slaughtered
They look up or pray...
327
00:20:57,084 --> 00:21:02,293
...and these great painters
It is part of their religious nature.
328
00:21:04,709 --> 00:21:07,126
That moment is very classic.
329
00:21:07,209 --> 00:21:10,793
I call it the decisive factor in photography.
I say it's one of those moments.
330
00:21:10,876 --> 00:21:13,084
Because the moments of the news...
331
00:21:13,168 --> 00:21:15,251
...by combining it with composition elements...
332
00:21:15,334 --> 00:21:17,584
...creates the photography in their work.
333
00:21:17,668 --> 00:21:22,793
There was something that would make a difference
Secondly, there were two things.
334
00:21:25,043 --> 00:21:27,584
I asked Don how he took the photo.
335
00:21:27,668 --> 00:21:32,501
As soon as I remember
He got on his knees...
336
00:21:32,584 --> 00:21:34,709
...because he felt it was coming.
337
00:21:42,918 --> 00:21:46,084
So, okay, it's like there's too much inside me
I speak as if there is poetry.
338
00:21:46,168 --> 00:21:47,709
Actually there isn't.
339
00:21:47,793 --> 00:21:50,959
I am a photographer, a painter
Or I'm not a poet.
340
00:21:51,043 --> 00:21:53,084
I am his photograph.
341
00:21:53,168 --> 00:21:56,793
And above all else I learned
One of the things...
342
00:21:57,709 --> 00:22:00,168
...on and above the photo...
343
00:22:00,251 --> 00:22:05,293
...the best qualities in this situation
you can have...
344
00:22:05,376 --> 00:22:07,334
...and if you are doing this task...
345
00:22:07,418 --> 00:22:09,584
...photo, reporter
or whatever you are...
346
00:22:09,668 --> 00:22:14,918
...to be on the side of humanity
It is much better.
347
00:22:17,543 --> 00:22:21,501
This all came to me very quickly,
this is responsibility.
348
00:22:21,959 --> 00:22:24,709
And I thought, "From the word "go"
I understand this.
349
00:22:24,793 --> 00:22:28,084
And I thought, "First time here
I understood what I did.
350
00:22:28,168 --> 00:22:30,209
I was born to do this."
351
00:22:48,584 --> 00:22:52,668
WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THE CRISIS IN CONGO?...
352
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...FROM BELGIUM IN 1960
GAINING INDEPENDENCE
353
00:22:55,334 --> 00:22:58,126
SIMBA REBELTS TO PRIME MINISTER TCHOMBE
BY RISING AGAINST...
354
00:22:58,209 --> 00:23:00,709
...KILLED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
AND HE TOOK WESTERN CIVILIANS HOSTAGE
355
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SUPPORTED BY MERCENARIES
BELGIUM AND CONGO SOLDIERS...
356
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...FOR THE RESCUE OPERATION
HE WAS SENT TO THE CITY OF STANLEYVILLE.
357
00:23:06,334 --> 00:23:09,459
IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CRISIS, McCULLIN
GERMAN MAGAZINE CALLED "QU�CK"...
358
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...before its appointment
HE CAME TO THE CAPITAL LEOPOLDVILLE.
359
00:23:23,001 --> 00:23:24,584
A decree had been announced...
360
00:23:24,668 --> 00:23:28,001
...journalists from Leopoldville
They were not allowed to leave.
361
00:23:29,001 --> 00:23:32,084
���� I thought, "I'm here.
I came all this way to be in the Congo...
362
00:23:32,168 --> 00:23:35,334
...and now I can't leave the capital."
363
00:23:35,418 --> 00:23:36,543
I was keeping this in mind.
364
00:23:36,626 --> 00:23:38,376
Money in a place called Stanleyville...
365
00:23:38,459 --> 00:23:39,918
...I knew there were soldiers.
366
00:23:40,001 --> 00:23:42,043
I discovered all this quickly.
367
00:23:42,126 --> 00:23:44,126
Mr Tchombe gave me a task.
368
00:23:44,209 --> 00:23:46,626
I can't explain it fully right now, but...
369
00:23:46,709 --> 00:23:49,543
...the rebellion in Congo�
To troubleshoot...
370
00:23:49,626 --> 00:23:51,709
...I will establish a fighting unit.
371
00:23:51,793 --> 00:23:53,793
"Mercenary" is a bad word.
372
00:23:53,876 --> 00:23:56,918
But this unit is the word
It will change its meaning.
373
00:23:57,001 --> 00:24:00,418
"Mercenary" will be in English from now on
Instead of being a bad word...
374
00:24:00,501 --> 00:24:03,709
...it will be a badge of honor.
375
00:24:03,793 --> 00:24:07,418
I met one of these soldiers
and his name was Alan Murphy...
376
00:24:07,501 --> 00:24:10,209
"Let me know about this."
can you give it to me? I asked.
377
00:24:10,293 --> 00:24:13,793
And on how to get there
I asked questions. He said...
378
00:24:13,876 --> 00:24:15,709
What happens every morning...
379
00:24:15,793 --> 00:24:19,959
...of a C-130 American aircraft,
Under the name of CIA...
380
00:24:20,043 --> 00:24:23,501
...mercenaries
It was to take him to Stanleyville.
381
00:24:24,584 --> 00:24:27,793
I said to him, "Give me a t-shirt and your trousers."
can you give? I said.
382
00:24:27,876 --> 00:24:30,126
And if I spend the night in a hotel...
383
00:24:30,210 --> 00:24:33,501
...in the morning when you received the order to leave
"Can you wake me up?" I asked.
384
00:24:33,585 --> 00:24:35,168
And he did.
385
00:24:35,251 --> 00:24:37,543
Now I understand...
386
00:24:37,626 --> 00:24:40,668
...40 years ago, I was standing on that track...
387
00:24:40,751 --> 00:24:44,376
...in the early morning
The rain had stopped.
388
00:24:44,460 --> 00:24:47,418
One of the CIA men with a clipboard...
389
00:24:47,501 --> 00:24:49,126
...he was asking people his name...
390
00:24:49,210 --> 00:24:53,001
...and "I'll get caught." I thought.
391
00:24:53,085 --> 00:24:55,376
He came to me and asked "What's your name?" he asked.
392
00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:58,376
“McCullin,” I said. "You are not on the list," he said.
393
00:24:58,460 --> 00:25:01,501
And I said, "I should be." my legs
He was shaking and told me...
394
00:25:01,585 --> 00:25:04,501
He wrote my name and said, "Okay, that way."
395
00:25:04,585 --> 00:25:08,251
I had survived this incredible situation.
396
00:26:03,460 --> 00:26:05,335
When I got to Stanleyville...
397
00:26:05,418 --> 00:26:07,835
...many shouts
and I could hear whistling...
398
00:26:07,918 --> 00:26:10,210
...people were crying
And there were gunshots.
399
00:26:11,835 --> 00:26:14,710
Groups of boys
I saw, they were connected...
400
00:26:14,793 --> 00:26:17,460
...they were being beaten
And they were shot in the head...
401
00:26:17,543 --> 00:26:20,168
...some of them were thrown into the sea,
And I was looking at all this.
402
00:26:20,626 --> 00:26:24,418
My small machine in my bag
and I was returning with 20 rolls of film...
403
00:26:24,501 --> 00:26:26,501
"Now how do I take out my camera and...
404
00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:29,751
...I am not a mercenary, here
How can I explain that I shouldn't be?
405
00:26:29,876 --> 00:26:31,626
Because this was a huge gamble.
406
00:26:37,751 --> 00:26:42,668
And those who killed these people
They were Congolese gendarmes.
407
00:26:42,751 --> 00:26:46,043
Dragging them on the wires
They were tied to the back of the trucks.
408
00:26:46,126 --> 00:26:47,168
It was truly scary.
409
00:26:47,251 --> 00:26:49,126
Some of them were skinned while they were alive.
410
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,293
Somewhere like a woodshed...
411
00:26:57,376 --> 00:26:59,668
...they were sitting in the corner, shaking...
412
00:26:59,876 --> 00:27:02,793
...anytime
Knowing that they might get shot.
413
00:27:05,710 --> 00:27:08,293
And then some of these kids
They dragged me in front of me...
414
00:27:08,376 --> 00:27:12,210
...and they started to get wild.
415
00:27:12,293 --> 00:27:15,376
What can I do to prevent this
There was nothing.
416
00:27:18,251 --> 00:27:21,085
I took some photos and zoomed out,
Then I thought like this...
417
00:27:21,335 --> 00:27:25,335
"For your purpose and your mission
You have a moral sense.
418
00:27:25,418 --> 00:27:28,251
The reason you're here is...
419
00:27:28,335 --> 00:27:31,210
...you must work for your purpose and your mission."
420
00:27:31,293 --> 00:27:32,960
It was very difficult...
421
00:27:33,043 --> 00:27:37,210
You want to take this photo
And you want to stop this happening.
422
00:27:38,085 --> 00:27:39,418
This is a very difficult thing.
423
00:27:39,543 --> 00:27:43,710
People I saw executed in front of me
It was increasing.
424
00:28:02,835 --> 00:28:04,335
There was a guy named Mike Hoare...
425
00:28:04,418 --> 00:28:05,835
...on the other side of the river...
426
00:28:05,918 --> 00:28:07,793
Hoare's monthly payment is 400 pounds
427
00:28:07,876 --> 00:28:09,835
...He was fighting in a place called Lualaba.
428
00:28:10,043 --> 00:28:14,585
I'm in it
5. He was commanding the Commando.
429
00:28:14,668 --> 00:28:17,376
I went to the other side of the river
and then...
430
00:28:17,460 --> 00:28:21,293
...Hoare, Mike Hoare came and told me...
431
00:28:21,376 --> 00:28:24,335
..."What are you doing? Who are you?
Where did you come from?" he asked.
432
00:28:24,418 --> 00:28:28,251
And I said, “I have to be honest with you.
433
00:28:28,335 --> 00:28:30,793
The Observer newspaper
"I work for it." I said.
434
00:28:30,876 --> 00:28:33,168
He couldn't understand the German magazine Quick.
435
00:28:33,251 --> 00:28:36,626
I immediately returned to my English heritage.
436
00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:39,585
"I'll deal with you in the morning.
437
00:28:39,668 --> 00:28:43,043
I send you to the Congolese army
"I will deliver it." he said.
438
00:28:43,793 --> 00:28:46,668
Who knew
This will be the last act.
439
00:28:49,751 --> 00:28:51,043
You know...
440
00:28:51,126 --> 00:28:53,918
"I appreciate what you're doing, but
"I can't allow it." he said.
441
00:28:54,001 --> 00:28:57,668
And then all this attitude
completely changed it.
442
00:28:57,751 --> 00:29:02,668
who kidnapped the nuns
The Simbas will come after you...
443
00:29:02,751 --> 00:29:04,376
...he invited me to the journey.
444
00:29:04,460 --> 00:29:08,460
While running away from us
He macheted them all the way...
445
00:29:08,543 --> 00:29:09,918
...they cut it into pieces.
446
00:29:12,835 --> 00:29:14,876
And we caught them.
447
00:29:27,543 --> 00:29:29,251
There was good in Mike Hoare...
448
00:29:29,335 --> 00:29:33,960
...but in the things he believed in
�There wasn't much goodness.
449
00:29:34,043 --> 00:29:36,418
He was there for adventure and money.
450
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:50,960
There was a mercenary named Rhodesian.
451
00:29:51,418 --> 00:29:53,043
I was sleeping in the same room with him...
452
00:29:53,126 --> 00:29:55,751
...there was a box of stuff, "Where did you find it?
this? I asked.
453
00:29:55,835 --> 00:29:57,543
"I blew up the bank in the city...
454
00:29:57,626 --> 00:29:59,793
...but unfortunately there was no money." he said.
455
00:30:05,085 --> 00:30:07,210
And in the middle of the night
I heard a gunshot...
456
00:30:07,293 --> 00:30:09,376
...I woke up sweating.
457
00:30:09,460 --> 00:30:12,793
Rhodesian got drunk
And he shot these two African children...
458
00:30:12,876 --> 00:30:15,835
...washed the laundry for these soldiers,
Children cooking...
459
00:30:15,918 --> 00:30:17,876
...because of the breakfast.
460
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,085
To those poor black kids
I remember looking...
461
00:30:20,168 --> 00:30:23,168
...one of them was around 12 years old, his eyes were open.
462
00:30:24,668 --> 00:30:26,501
I looked at the soldier and he told me...
463
00:30:26,585 --> 00:30:30,085
"They deserved it." he said.
"I found a gun on them." he said.
464
00:30:30,168 --> 00:30:32,001
It wasn't true.
465
00:30:32,085 --> 00:30:37,126
Some of these soldiers were Africans.
They enjoyed killing.
466
00:30:40,626 --> 00:30:41,960
I ended up hating them
467
00:30:46,126 --> 00:30:47,335
Who is there?
468
00:30:50,793 --> 00:30:54,043
When I get away from this brutality,
I kept thinking...
469
00:30:54,126 --> 00:30:55,793
"How will I get over this?"
470
00:30:55,876 --> 00:30:58,418
I love what I do,
I love photography...
471
00:30:58,501 --> 00:31:03,501
...but on the other hand
"It's very scary to live with this."
472
00:31:03,585 --> 00:31:07,293
People sometimes tell me, "I have nightmares at night."
Do you see?" he asks.
473
00:31:07,376 --> 00:31:10,251
And I said, "No, only during the day.
474
00:31:10,335 --> 00:31:12,918
When my eyes are open and I'm awake...
475
00:31:13,001 --> 00:31:16,085
...and all my memories
While you are on alert." I say.
476
00:31:16,168 --> 00:31:20,793
"I love photography." while...
477
00:31:20,876 --> 00:31:22,543
...I love being in the dark room.
478
00:31:22,626 --> 00:31:25,293
But even my dark room is haunted.
479
00:31:25,376 --> 00:31:29,085
I'm coming in, that red light, main
It's like being in the womb.
480
00:31:29,168 --> 00:31:31,418
I'm listening to music.
481
00:31:31,502 --> 00:31:34,085
Only classical music.
482
00:31:34,168 --> 00:31:38,335
It relaxes me, but at the same time...
483
00:31:38,418 --> 00:31:41,460
...take me down, go
It pulls me where I don't want it.
484
00:31:41,543 --> 00:31:45,502
In a very deep ocean
Like I'm drowning.
485
00:31:45,585 --> 00:31:48,210
To see the day again
I'm trying to go up.
486
00:31:48,293 --> 00:31:52,377
So I guess I just
I don't take photos.
487
00:32:10,085 --> 00:32:12,335
RIFLE ACADEMY
488
00:32:23,252 --> 00:32:24,835
I would come to Finsbury Park again...
489
00:32:24,918 --> 00:32:26,960
...��because unfortunately
I was still living there...
490
00:32:27,043 --> 00:32:31,585
...with my new wife,
In pretty bad conditions.
491
00:32:31,668 --> 00:32:34,418
And then, I had nothing to do
On the rare days when it doesn't happen...
492
00:32:34,502 --> 00:32:39,335
...will go to Wimpy Bar
And I was going to hang out with the same crew.
493
00:32:39,418 --> 00:32:42,460
Then he asked me, "Where have you been?" They would say.
494
00:32:42,543 --> 00:32:45,960
And I said, "With mercenaries
I was in the Congo." I was going to say.
495
00:32:46,043 --> 00:32:49,960
They were going to make fun of me.
496
00:32:50,043 --> 00:32:52,960
But basically you put me down
They were shooting right...
497
00:32:53,043 --> 00:32:56,585
...like Walter Mitty living in this world.
498
00:33:01,793 --> 00:33:05,252
The Observer heard, four and a half years ago
I worked closely...
499
00:33:05,335 --> 00:33:09,543
...and things started to slow down for me
and I also...
500
00:33:09,627 --> 00:33:11,960
...I had tasted it and I needed it...
501
00:33:12,043 --> 00:33:15,585
...they were bigger, international stories.
502
00:33:16,793 --> 00:33:20,877
A friend of mine named David King...
503
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,543
...was working atThe Sunday Times
and me...
504
00:33:25,627 --> 00:33:26,960
“Why don't you come and join us?
505
00:33:27,043 --> 00:33:28,918
Why don't you come and do some work for us?
506
00:33:29,002 --> 00:33:30,293
"I'll give you a job." he said.
507
00:33:30,377 --> 00:33:33,418
So I accepted
He sent me to Mississippi.
508
00:33:47,335 --> 00:33:50,335
Mississippi is the most incredible place in the world
It was one of the places
509
00:33:50,418 --> 00:33:52,085
I mean...
510
00:33:52,168 --> 00:33:54,835
...the partners, the blacks who brought the cotton...
511
00:33:54,918 --> 00:33:57,960
...those who live in barracks and hangars.
512
00:33:58,043 --> 00:34:01,002
And then there's New Orleans...
513
00:34:01,085 --> 00:34:03,460
We came to New Orleans
514
00:34:04,752 --> 00:34:06,918
It was a place worth seeing.
515
00:34:07,377 --> 00:34:09,960
THE SUNDAY TIMES magazine
OLD MAN RIVER
516
00:34:21,710 --> 00:34:24,627
One night there
Ku Klux Klan meeting was held...
517
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:27,585
...it was like Hollywood
518
00:34:27,668 --> 00:34:29,335
A large crossfire was lit.
519
00:34:29,418 --> 00:34:33,127
These people who are so hateful
They were wearing ridiculous clothes...
520
00:34:33,210 --> 00:34:34,835
...they were smoking big cigars.
521
00:34:36,460 --> 00:34:38,627
And basically
They were saying "Welcome"...
522
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:41,585
...but also
They were scaring us.
523
00:34:43,502 --> 00:34:46,168
I managed to take a few photos.
524
00:34:46,252 --> 00:34:50,627
When I Return, David King
he combined them.
525
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:53,002
You can take incredible photos...
526
00:34:53,085 --> 00:34:55,710
...but before they are presented
you need...
527
00:34:56,293 --> 00:35:00,877
...somehow the public accepts them
And he must understand.
528
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,668
This is me In The Sunday Times
It was my first assignment.
529
00:35:04,335 --> 00:35:07,377
SUNDAY TIMES BRITAIN
IT WAS THE BEST-SELLING NEWSPAPER
530
00:35:07,460 --> 00:35:10,960
MCCULLIN, EDIT IMMEDIATELY HAROLD EVANS
HE BECAME A PART OF THE MANAGEMENT TEAM
531
00:35:11,043 --> 00:35:15,043
NEWSPAPER IS THE LEADER OF INDEPENDENT JOURNALISM
HE PAID TO LORD THOMSON.
532
00:35:21,585 --> 00:35:24,627
Roy Thomson was not a journalist...
533
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:28,835
...but what journalism has
He became her best friend.
534
00:35:28,918 --> 00:35:31,460
He was proud of his newspapers...
535
00:35:31,543 --> 00:35:34,002
...and with their independence
He was proud...
536
00:35:34,085 --> 00:35:38,585
...had printed a card that he carried in his pocket.
537
00:35:38,752 --> 00:35:40,752
When Roy Thomson was criticized...
538
00:35:40,877 --> 00:35:42,877
"Why does your newspaper publish these?"
539
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,002
...or "Why are you fighting this colorful magazine?"
Are you posting photos?
540
00:35:46,085 --> 00:35:48,585
Advertisers don't like it." When it is said...
541
00:35:48,668 --> 00:35:53,377
...he stops and takes a small card out of his pocket.
He took it out and said...
542
00:35:53,460 --> 00:35:56,835
...it was like an oath for him...
543
00:35:56,918 --> 00:35:59,668
"The newspapers under my control...
544
00:35:59,752 --> 00:36:02,127
...will always be independent
and will work professionally...
545
00:36:02,210 --> 00:36:05,043
...and I will not interfere with them."
546
00:36:05,127 --> 00:36:08,502
Then he puts his card back in his pocket
and he said...
547
00:36:08,585 --> 00:36:12,335
"I will go against my own word
You're not thinking, are you?"
548
00:36:12,418 --> 00:36:16,335
I was privileged because
I worked in a color magazine...
549
00:36:16,418 --> 00:36:21,627
...and the magazine to The Sunday Times
It was directly connected to it.
550
00:36:21,710 --> 00:36:24,752
I worked with great people...
551
00:36:24,835 --> 00:36:26,752
...disappeared for a few weeks...
552
00:36:26,835 --> 00:36:28,918
...then let me come back...
553
00:36:29,002 --> 00:36:32,377
...and above all else his own
With those who let me write my materials.
554
00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:34,835
He knew that we had that trust...
555
00:36:34,918 --> 00:36:37,960
...if he did his own work
and if he took pictures...
556
00:36:38,043 --> 00:36:41,752
...in integrity and truthfulness...
557
00:36:41,835 --> 00:36:44,377
...and a composition
If he expressed it with feeling...
558
00:36:44,460 --> 00:36:47,877
...will not be intervened
And he would not be denied...
559
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,418
...due to some conditions, of course.
560
00:36:50,502 --> 00:36:53,335
They trusted me and this...
561
00:36:53,418 --> 00:36:55,377
...for the people who gave me this freedom...
562
00:36:55,460 --> 00:36:57,877
...I will try harder
It meant.
563
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,085
Roy Thomson looking out for his editors...
564
00:37:01,168 --> 00:37:04,335
...in Don McCullin's career
It was very important.
565
00:37:22,502 --> 00:37:27,002
60's, if you want to go to war,
It was full of opportunities.
566
00:37:30,210 --> 00:37:33,543
B�AFRA: THE DARKNESS OF AFRICA
567
00:37:38,585 --> 00:37:41,710
THE HOLY WAR JUNE 1967
568
00:37:41,793 --> 00:37:44,043
What's new in street clashes
�Israeli soldiers...
569
00:37:44,168 --> 00:37:46,335
...They are taking photos at the Western Wall.
570
00:37:46,418 --> 00:37:48,877
Girlfriends in Tel Aviv or
���for enamel.
571
00:37:57,168 --> 00:37:59,252
If they think I came happy...
572
00:37:59,793 --> 00:38:03,752
...they know I'm going to show them something bad.
573
00:38:03,835 --> 00:38:05,627
And if it will show
If I have something bad...
574
00:38:05,710 --> 00:38:08,960
...tell these people not to be at war...
575
00:38:09,043 --> 00:38:13,085
...and I loved being there
He was giving his message...
576
00:38:13,168 --> 00:38:15,627
...because this is for me
It was a big adventure...
577
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:19,835
...my mission was to be there for a reason,
Not just to have a good time.
578
00:38:19,918 --> 00:38:23,043
I told you about the battle in Hue Castle...
579
00:38:23,127 --> 00:38:25,043
...and this is what I'm in
It was the greatest war.
580
00:38:25,127 --> 00:38:27,919
I mean without being at war
I don't want to spend a year.
581
00:38:28,002 --> 00:38:29,960
This continued for two weeks.
582
00:38:30,044 --> 00:38:34,752
And that was really the beginning of the craze.
583
00:38:34,877 --> 00:38:36,419
I'm starting to get a little worse...
584
00:38:36,502 --> 00:38:40,419
...because we fight two wars a year
I was waiting to go.
585
00:38:41,419 --> 00:38:44,419
And if twice a year or so
If I wait to go any longer...
586
00:38:44,502 --> 00:38:46,127
...I can't survive.
587
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,294
NORTH VETNAM IN FEBRUARY 1968
G��LER� 'TET ATTACK'...
588
00:39:05,377 --> 00:39:06,544
KNOWN AS...
ATTACKS WERE ORGANIZED
589
00:39:06,627 --> 00:39:09,835
THIS SITUATION IS AFFECTED BY THE US AND SOUTH VETNAM POWERS
TAKEN UNDER CONTROL BY
590
00:39:09,919 --> 00:39:11,335
OUTSIDE THE HUE �CITY�
591
00:39:11,419 --> 00:39:13,669
RE-TAKING THE CITY TO THE NAVAL FORCES
DUTY GIVEN
592
00:39:13,752 --> 00:39:15,335
BUT THIS EVENT TURNED INTO A BLOODY WAR
593
00:39:15,419 --> 00:39:17,294
TRANSFORMATION FOR McCULLIN
IT WOULD BE THE POINT
594
00:39:31,377 --> 00:39:33,377
While sleeping next to the dead...
595
00:39:34,502 --> 00:39:36,710
...I was looking at the man crushed by tanks...
596
00:39:36,794 --> 00:39:39,002
...the �ran on the road
It looked like the carpets
597
00:39:40,252 --> 00:39:42,210
There were people with their brains hanging out.
598
00:39:44,252 --> 00:39:49,377
Under the tables or infested with mice
They were sleeping in the rooms where he was.
599
00:39:49,460 --> 00:39:53,585
He had completely turned into madness and madness.
600
00:39:55,252 --> 00:39:58,210
I stayed in that war for two weeks...
601
00:39:58,294 --> 00:40:00,460
...dozens of Americans
His soldier was killed...
602
00:40:00,669 --> 00:40:03,544
...toward your injury and towards me
I witnessed them being dragged.
603
00:40:03,627 --> 00:40:07,710
They looked like they came from the butcher shop,
There was blood everywhere.
604
00:40:08,669 --> 00:40:11,752
I finally went really crazy, with freedom...
605
00:40:12,169 --> 00:40:14,419
...like a tortured animal
I was running around.
606
00:40:14,585 --> 00:40:16,002
ONE KIND OF MADNESS
607
00:40:23,169 --> 00:40:25,544
When I look at these photos...
608
00:40:25,669 --> 00:40:28,960
...if the Sunday after breakfast
If it is in the morning, it will affect them very much...
609
00:40:29,044 --> 00:40:30,419
...I had to be sure.
610
00:40:43,877 --> 00:40:46,960
The first man I saw in the Battle of Hue...
611
00:40:47,044 --> 00:40:50,085
...he was shot with two bullets in the face.
612
00:40:50,169 --> 00:40:52,044
And he was wrapped in a bandage.
613
00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:54,710
With pus flowing from his face and bandage...
614
00:40:54,794 --> 00:40:57,669
...he looked like a child,
615
00:40:57,752 --> 00:40:59,960
But unfortunately, it was not mash that flowed, but blood.
616
00:41:00,044 --> 00:41:05,460
Very large pieces for a human
It was coming out of his face.
617
00:41:05,544 --> 00:41:08,169
I raised my camera towards my face...
618
00:41:08,252 --> 00:41:11,377
...and this soldier
He tried to raise his head...
619
00:41:11,460 --> 00:41:14,460
...but his eyes say "Don't pull me"
He was shouting like...
620
00:41:14,544 --> 00:41:17,585
...so I took my camera
and I went to another place.
621
00:41:17,669 --> 00:41:22,294
In those days people were injured
There was no problem in showing it.
622
00:41:23,544 --> 00:41:27,377
"When I took this photo, the sniper
"We were under fire."
623
00:41:29,252 --> 00:41:30,502
About my war...
624
00:41:30,585 --> 00:41:32,919
CAPTAIN HARRINGTON, DELTA, 1ST BATTALION
5. MARINE FORCES
625
00:41:33,002 --> 00:41:35,127
...my most vivid memories...
626
00:41:35,210 --> 00:41:38,085
... where the most intense wars took place
It's from the Vietnam War.
627
00:41:38,835 --> 00:41:43,752
Don came and joined us,
He just showed up...
628
00:41:44,127 --> 00:41:46,544
...but the most special thing about Don is...
629
00:41:46,627 --> 00:41:50,502
...other reporters and photos...
630
00:41:50,585 --> 00:41:54,294
...��a photo when they arrive
They would walk away.
631
00:41:54,377 --> 00:41:57,169
They would take their photos and leave.
632
00:41:57,252 --> 00:41:59,627
No matter what the reason is, frost...
633
00:41:59,710 --> 00:42:04,252
...chose to join us,
He stayed with us for days...
634
00:42:04,335 --> 00:42:08,210
...he became one of us.
635
00:42:08,294 --> 00:42:11,294
Once,
Even more than once...
636
00:42:11,377 --> 00:42:14,294
...went out
and he put himself in danger...
637
00:42:14,377 --> 00:42:18,085
...bringing back the wounded and dead...
638
00:42:18,169 --> 00:42:21,585
...he helped us evacuate.
639
00:42:23,335 --> 00:42:28,127
This classic photo is on Delta Sea Force...
640
00:42:28,210 --> 00:42:32,627
...depressed by war
It belonged to the Delta Sea Company.
641
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:35,877
I got on my knees
And I took a photo of this man.
642
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,460
I took five frames with a single exposure.
643
00:42:40,544 --> 00:42:42,877
One, two, three, four, five.
644
00:42:45,002 --> 00:42:47,544
I didn't blink my eyelids even once...
645
00:42:47,627 --> 00:42:52,335
...all the negatives are almost the same,
None of them are different.
646
00:42:52,419 --> 00:42:56,294
From the Sailors at Delta Company...
647
00:42:56,377 --> 00:42:58,085
...�I continued to see his son.
648
00:42:58,169 --> 00:43:00,710
We came together periodically...
649
00:43:00,794 --> 00:43:04,085
...but who is he
Still not clear...
650
00:43:04,169 --> 00:43:08,919
...and I still don't know the story.
651
00:43:38,294 --> 00:43:39,669
ANYWAY
652
00:43:39,752 --> 00:43:41,627
Photos and review
Donald McCullin
653
00:43:41,877 --> 00:43:45,460
I pulled this big American,
He looked like an athlete...
654
00:43:45,544 --> 00:43:47,544
...but he was throwing a grenade.
655
00:43:47,627 --> 00:43:51,877
Sniper in seconds,
He shot the soldier in the hand...
656
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,752
...and he had a hand that looked like a cauliflower
657
00:43:54,835 --> 00:43:58,752
Everywhere was raided and exploding.
658
00:43:58,835 --> 00:44:03,085
This photo is almost like
He was advocating anti-war sentiments...
659
00:44:03,169 --> 00:44:05,085
...and that's what I was trying to show.
660
00:44:05,169 --> 00:44:07,669
Because he was looking at the photo of humanity...
661
00:44:07,752 --> 00:44:11,085
...as if at the Olympics
He looked like a javelin thrower.
662
00:44:12,544 --> 00:44:14,544
Instead he was throwing a grenade...
663
00:44:14,627 --> 00:44:17,335
...and this to the others
It meant that it would bring death.
664
00:44:37,210 --> 00:44:40,294
What I suffered in the war
One of the meaningful photos...
665
00:44:40,377 --> 00:44:44,835
...by an American sailor, two
He was a man who was shot in the leg.
666
00:44:44,919 --> 00:44:47,335
Two friends were helping him.
667
00:44:47,419 --> 00:44:49,794
And if at that moment...
668
00:44:49,877 --> 00:44:52,460
...despite all my atheist thoughts...
669
00:44:52,544 --> 00:44:54,960
...to something purely religious
I looked and thought.
670
00:44:55,044 --> 00:44:58,377
�This man who looks like Jesus...
671
00:44:58,460 --> 00:45:00,710
...had he been taken down?
672
00:45:08,710 --> 00:45:12,085
When it's over, Sailors have 50 percent...
673
00:45:12,169 --> 00:45:15,794
...there was a close loss.
674
00:45:15,877 --> 00:45:22,544
In my case, 120 sailors and
I went with a company that included soldiers...
675
00:45:22,627 --> 00:45:24,085
...and at the end of the war...
676
00:45:24,169 --> 00:45:27,752
...39 of us were still alive.
677
00:45:31,711 --> 00:45:38,336
So how chaotic are these photos
You can see that it is.
678
00:45:42,752 --> 00:45:46,544
Two weeks later in Da Nang
I returned to the press center.
679
00:45:46,627 --> 00:45:48,752
I never took off my clothes
I noticed...
680
00:45:48,836 --> 00:45:51,877
...and underwear,
nothing for two weeks.
681
00:45:51,961 --> 00:45:55,961
And you know, my beard grew
And I was like a ghost.
682
00:45:56,044 --> 00:45:59,086
I took off those clothes
and I threw it in the trash can...
683
00:45:59,169 --> 00:46:00,294
...my everything.
684
00:46:00,377 --> 00:46:02,586
I took a shower.
685
00:46:05,252 --> 00:46:09,336
I can get bored very easily while in the shower.
I noticed and cried.
686
00:46:09,419 --> 00:46:10,836
You know, I'm so...
687
00:46:12,336 --> 00:46:15,752
For two weeks people
Seeing him die...
688
00:46:15,836 --> 00:46:19,627
...it made me sad and devastated.
689
00:46:19,711 --> 00:46:23,836
What I want to say here is...
690
00:46:23,919 --> 00:46:25,586
...I'm trying to be honest.
691
00:46:25,669 --> 00:46:29,544
You know, photography
It was not a significant factor there.
692
00:46:29,627 --> 00:46:32,961
It... What photography can do
It was nothing.
693
00:46:33,044 --> 00:46:38,461
After a while, such an event
If you get involved...
694
00:46:38,544 --> 00:46:41,627
This is not about the photo,
It's about humanity.
695
00:46:41,711 --> 00:46:44,919
Still object photography
the way we remember...
696
00:46:45,002 --> 00:46:47,377
...it gives a very strong intimacy, so...
697
00:46:47,461 --> 00:46:52,044
And still your photos
It has intense vibrations...
698
00:46:52,127 --> 00:46:54,502
...and this could take forever.
699
00:46:55,252 --> 00:46:57,711
I remember...
700
00:46:57,794 --> 00:47:00,711
Donald got upset sometimes, I know...
701
00:47:00,794 --> 00:47:05,627
"Should I have taken these risks?
Was it worth it?"
702
00:47:05,711 --> 00:47:08,002
I can say that it was worth it.
703
00:47:08,086 --> 00:47:10,794
Because no one can follow...
704
00:47:10,877 --> 00:47:14,627
It's like throwing a stone into the pool,
rings are formed.
705
00:47:14,711 --> 00:47:19,002
These rings are related to stones.
We can't say but it is.
706
00:47:19,086 --> 00:47:22,252
And the Vietnam War in America
disappointing...
707
00:47:22,336 --> 00:47:27,586
...thanks to some photos
Supported by American photographs.
708
00:47:27,669 --> 00:47:30,211
Including Don McCullin.
709
00:47:30,502 --> 00:47:33,419
You know, photography is real...
710
00:47:33,502 --> 00:47:37,127
...if a righteous person
If it is pulled by.
711
00:47:37,211 --> 00:47:39,794
I can tell you this,
I was honest too much.
712
00:47:39,877 --> 00:47:41,794
I have never lied.
713
00:47:41,877 --> 00:47:45,794
As if something happened that didn't happen
I didn't try to show it.
714
00:47:45,877 --> 00:47:49,377
I once painted a picture
And I had actually recreated something.
715
00:47:49,461 --> 00:47:52,127
That was all I did.
716
00:47:52,211 --> 00:47:55,669
But some Americans
A dead soldier...
717
00:47:55,752 --> 00:47:57,752
...that they looted their belongings...
718
00:47:57,836 --> 00:48:00,752
...that they made fun of his corpse,
I saw them making fun of me.
719
00:48:00,836 --> 00:48:04,086
And when they left this Northern Vietnam
The rest of his soldiers...
720
00:48:04,169 --> 00:48:10,294
...gather your personal belongings
From these items...
721
00:48:10,377 --> 00:48:12,086
...I made a touching montage.
722
00:48:13,294 --> 00:48:15,044
I've never done this before...
723
00:48:15,127 --> 00:48:18,919
...but for this soldier
I should have made an explanation.
724
00:48:19,002 --> 00:48:21,877
I am not ashamed of doing this.
725
00:48:21,961 --> 00:48:24,127
There is this photo and I think...
726
00:48:24,211 --> 00:48:27,544
...he was saying what I wanted to say.
727
00:48:27,627 --> 00:48:32,669
You know, "Hear me,
I am just a victim of the war."
728
00:48:32,752 --> 00:48:35,961
About this young man
I wanted to say this.
729
00:48:40,419 --> 00:48:44,044
We were completely free in Vietnam.
730
00:48:44,127 --> 00:48:48,377
This is of course the Americans'
It was what he felt...
731
00:48:48,461 --> 00:48:50,294
...the war was finally coming to an end...
732
00:48:50,377 --> 00:48:53,502
...and the media them�
He was disappointed.
733
00:48:54,461 --> 00:48:56,294
But they were a little nervous about this...
734
00:48:56,377 --> 00:48:58,919
...because they gave us every opportunity...
735
00:48:59,002 --> 00:49:01,086
...the only thing they got in return...
736
00:49:01,169 --> 00:49:06,169
...people's support for the Vietnam War
What happened was contradictory.
737
00:49:07,044 --> 00:49:12,502
�If you go to Afghanistan completely
You are under control.
738
00:49:12,586 --> 00:49:15,336
You can take photos like this
They don't allow it.
739
00:49:15,419 --> 00:49:17,211
I did it in Vietnam...
740
00:49:17,294 --> 00:49:18,961
...I did the real thing.
741
00:49:19,044 --> 00:49:21,669
War, you know, the price of war...
742
00:49:21,752 --> 00:49:24,752
... are suffering and losses.
743
00:49:24,836 --> 00:49:30,169
So the rules were rewritten...
744
00:49:30,252 --> 00:49:32,919
...and that wasn't good for us.
745
00:49:37,877 --> 00:49:42,752
I just said that this is a rotten business
You said it, but you still wanted it.
746
00:49:42,836 --> 00:49:46,294
All the time I've known you,
I mean, for a very long time you...
747
00:49:46,377 --> 00:49:47,711
...war, famine...
748
00:49:47,794 --> 00:49:49,169
...and you sought misery.
749
00:49:49,252 --> 00:49:52,002
Yes, I did because only soldiers
I thought it would happen.
750
00:49:52,086 --> 00:49:53,627
When I went to war... So...
751
00:49:53,711 --> 00:49:55,752
incredible excitement
I thought it was...
752
00:49:55,836 --> 00:49:57,961
...while lying under the dam
bombs falling...
753
00:49:58,044 --> 00:49:59,419
...being shot at.
754
00:49:59,502 --> 00:50:01,544
You know a challenge
I thought it was.
755
00:50:01,627 --> 00:50:05,711
Snipers hit me
While trying to catch...
756
00:50:05,794 --> 00:50:07,877
...bodies in the canals
I hid among them.
757
00:50:07,961 --> 00:50:10,877
And my fingers
put it on them and...
758
00:50:10,961 --> 00:50:12,336
...I meant "You missed".
759
00:50:12,586 --> 00:50:16,544
I had a very arrogant attitude about the war.
760
00:50:16,627 --> 00:50:20,627
But then with the real sacrifices
I started to make contact...
761
00:50:20,711 --> 00:50:23,377
...and these people
They were poor people without knowledge.
762
00:50:23,461 --> 00:50:25,461
Underneath them to escape
There was no Mercedes Benz...
763
00:50:25,544 --> 00:50:27,502
...there was no communication or quickly...
764
00:50:27,586 --> 00:50:29,086
...they had no money to escape.
765
00:50:29,169 --> 00:50:32,419
It was always the poorest people who were battered.
766
00:50:32,502 --> 00:50:36,669
The most surprising thing is
Where I started my life...
767
00:50:36,752 --> 00:50:38,169
...I was living with poor people.
768
00:50:38,252 --> 00:50:41,044
And when I'm with them,
on their terms...
769
00:50:41,127 --> 00:50:45,461
...feels so close
and I understood their fate.
770
00:50:58,752 --> 00:51:01,794
You are my friend, aren't you?
771
00:51:01,877 --> 00:51:03,336
We are all friends.
772
00:51:08,044 --> 00:51:10,169
Can you look at where my elbow is?
773
00:51:10,252 --> 00:51:11,961
If you don't mind, I'd like to see your face.
774
00:51:12,086 --> 00:51:13,252
This is good.
775
00:51:13,336 --> 00:51:16,586
You're fine, aren't you? Do you care?
776
00:51:16,669 --> 00:51:20,127
Don't you care about me? something for you
I won't do it, will I?
777
00:51:20,211 --> 00:51:21,377
OK, thank you.
778
00:51:21,461 --> 00:51:23,419
I don't want to disturb you.
779
00:51:33,586 --> 00:51:37,794
I spent almost all of my life in Aldgate and
I spent it working for Whitechapel.
780
00:51:37,877 --> 00:51:40,877
It's all there.
It's there as a photo.
781
00:51:42,752 --> 00:51:46,377
Ok�... What do they call this?
782
00:51:48,919 --> 00:51:54,002
When he painted these paintings there,
It is called Hogarthian, which is an equal experience.
783
00:52:07,669 --> 00:52:12,586
This is one of my favorite pictures
I've never published it before.
784
00:52:12,669 --> 00:52:14,294
I mean, look at the man's hands.
785
00:52:14,377 --> 00:52:17,169
These men are all sleepless
He is standing.
786
00:52:17,252 --> 00:52:19,502
CRISIS IN THE SURFACES
787
00:52:29,961 --> 00:52:33,211
These people have their dead eyes on you
Trying to be...
788
00:52:33,294 --> 00:52:35,086
...also to you
They were trying to look.
789
00:52:35,169 --> 00:52:38,794
One should never fear them in this way,
You should look at them too.
790
00:52:42,169 --> 00:52:43,919
This woman's name is Jean.
791
00:52:44,003 --> 00:52:47,628
At Liverpool Street�� station
It hangs under the arches.
792
00:52:49,753 --> 00:52:53,628
He curtsies when I go,
He would say, "Hello, Captain Mark."
793
00:52:54,586 --> 00:52:56,711
"Why do you say Captain Mark?"
When I ask...
794
00:52:56,794 --> 00:53:00,669
...to me, "because to Captain Mark Phillips
You look similar,” he said.
795
00:53:00,753 --> 00:53:02,419
And "Would you like some tea?" he said.
796
00:53:02,503 --> 00:53:04,544
And I said, "But there is no milk."
797
00:53:04,628 --> 00:53:07,753
"From the people's front door
I can always buy it,” he said.
798
00:53:08,378 --> 00:53:09,878
I loved it.
799
00:53:09,961 --> 00:53:12,544
What I actually did was give him something to live on
It was about finding a place.
800
00:53:15,628 --> 00:53:17,753
This is a photo that I really like.
801
00:53:17,836 --> 00:53:21,336
Like a woman falling from another century.
802
00:53:21,419 --> 00:53:24,003
Do this on a Sunday
I took it at Chapel Market...
803
00:53:24,086 --> 00:53:26,253
...when I was a very young photograph.
804
00:53:26,336 --> 00:53:28,753
She was a beautiful woman, this woman...
805
00:53:28,836 --> 00:53:31,669
...himself with his bag,
He was telling through his clothes
806
00:53:35,211 --> 00:53:38,794
Now they are all young,
Not all of these people are old.
807
00:53:45,711 --> 00:53:48,294
One of the best portraits I have ever made...
808
00:53:48,378 --> 00:53:50,503
...This man in Capitalfields Market...
809
00:53:50,586 --> 00:53:53,669
...all day long
The girls were also lying down during the ongoing fire...
810
00:53:53,753 --> 00:53:56,753
...there were homeless people around.
811
00:53:56,836 --> 00:54:01,211
He got up and sat down and looked at my whole face,
I was just looking...
812
00:54:01,294 --> 00:54:03,461
...and my Nikon camera�
I brought it towards my eye...
813
00:54:03,544 --> 00:54:05,961
...and I took this photo,
He didn't even blink.
814
00:54:06,044 --> 00:54:08,836
The bluest you will ever see
I was looking at the eyes.
815
00:54:08,919 --> 00:54:11,044
And his hair was matted.
816
00:54:11,128 --> 00:54:14,878
Looking at one of these...
817
00:54:14,961 --> 00:54:19,753
...Neptune's symbol is �� under the sea.
I felt like I saw the man with the spear.
818
00:54:19,836 --> 00:54:21,503
It was quite unusual.
819
00:54:22,878 --> 00:54:24,919
This photo pleased me very much.
820
00:54:29,378 --> 00:54:30,836
BLUE PETER
821
00:54:32,419 --> 00:54:35,586
This year was a matter of life and death.
822
00:54:37,628 --> 00:54:41,294
The war in West Africa has been going on for two years
continued.
823
00:54:41,378 --> 00:54:45,294
Conflict between Biafrans and Nigerians
It was a civil war.
824
00:54:45,378 --> 00:54:48,669
Which side is right and which side is wrong
We cannot say that it is...
825
00:54:48,753 --> 00:54:51,378
...but war is always
It is completely wrong.
826
00:54:52,211 --> 00:54:57,919
THE BIAFRAN WAR IN 1969 WAS ONE HUMANITY
BACK TO THE DRAMA
827
00:54:58,003 --> 00:55:01,378
LIVE ON TELEVISION
IT WAS THE FIRST EVENT GIVEN
828
00:55:01,461 --> 00:55:04,086
SCREENS AND NEWSPAPERS
IN THE HEADLINES
829
00:55:04,169 --> 00:55:07,253
PHOTOS OF STARVING CHILDREN
THERE WAS AND WITH MANY RESPONSIBILITIES
830
00:55:07,336 --> 00:55:09,128
DOING SOMETHING TO HELP
�WANTED�
831
00:55:09,253 --> 00:55:14,253
BUT THE WAR CONTINUED...
832
00:55:19,378 --> 00:55:21,503
�I went there twice or ��
833
00:55:21,586 --> 00:55:24,461
Aid planes...
834
00:55:24,544 --> 00:55:28,128
...having an airstrip of their own
It led down to land with a wide road.
835
00:55:28,211 --> 00:55:30,086
This place was called UL� Airstrip.
836
00:55:30,169 --> 00:55:31,669
And I went there at night...
837
00:55:31,753 --> 00:55:35,794
...federal government...
838
00:55:35,878 --> 00:55:39,503
...Russian and foreign pilots and planes
He hired them to hit and knock them down.
839
00:55:39,961 --> 00:55:43,003
Wars are on the other side
Flies in the region.
840
00:55:43,086 --> 00:55:46,169
As they move, leaning to the right
They are bombarding.
841
00:55:46,253 --> 00:55:49,503
�to the surrounding markets...
842
00:55:49,586 --> 00:55:52,711
...incendiary bombs
and fragmentation bombs are falling.
843
00:55:52,794 --> 00:55:58,378
It was quite difficult for me to land at Uli Airstrip at night.
It was a frightening experience.
844
00:55:58,461 --> 00:56:02,169
there without permission
There are teams that want to fly...
845
00:56:02,253 --> 00:56:03,961
GROUP CAPTAIN
LEONARD CHESHIRE VC
846
00:56:04,044 --> 00:56:06,044
...we will just try and fly.
847
00:56:06,169 --> 00:56:08,378
But you got off without getting hit
You are lucky for this.
848
00:56:08,461 --> 00:56:11,003
I don't think so. No.
849
00:56:11,086 --> 00:56:14,628
His hands looked alert.
850
00:56:14,711 --> 00:56:18,086
We were going to try it anyway and see.
851
00:56:18,169 --> 00:56:20,461
Miss Ryder, why are you going too?
852
00:56:22,169 --> 00:56:26,044
because some of them are anywhere
No matter who suffers...
853
00:56:26,128 --> 00:56:29,753
...�can feel very deeply.
854
00:56:29,836 --> 00:56:33,669
And partly in Europe in the past...
855
00:56:33,753 --> 00:56:36,878
...as someone who saw the same situation...
856
00:56:38,169 --> 00:56:39,794
...maybe I'm comparing it to this.
857
00:57:02,336 --> 00:57:05,836
I walked into the camp,
It was an old school building...
858
00:57:05,919 --> 00:57:09,794
...there waiting for me
And there were 800 children about to die.
859
00:57:13,378 --> 00:57:16,753
Those who are about to die in the camp
When you enter with 800 children...
860
00:57:16,836 --> 00:57:20,628
...some of them actually fall
and he was dying in front of me...
861
00:57:20,711 --> 00:57:24,211
...as if you came to save them
They thought like this.
862
00:57:24,294 --> 00:57:26,419
Taking photos and getting information...
863
00:57:26,503 --> 00:57:28,128
They didn't understand that you came for ...
864
00:57:28,211 --> 00:57:32,336
This was not what they wanted.
They wanted food.
865
00:57:48,419 --> 00:57:51,669
The one that still takes me to that day
I saw this special child.
866
00:57:51,753 --> 00:57:54,586
He was an albino
and he was standing there looking at me...
867
00:57:54,669 --> 00:57:58,294
...��flapping� legs�
He was trying to focus on it.
868
00:57:58,378 --> 00:58:00,419
And if you are albino in Africa...
869
00:58:00,503 --> 00:58:04,169
...you see bullying all the time
and God knows what else.
870
00:58:04,253 --> 00:58:09,336
A can of French corned beef
He was holding it in his hand, it was a gift of help...
871
00:58:09,419 --> 00:58:12,503
...he licked the completely dry box.
872
00:58:12,586 --> 00:58:14,336
I thought, "I won't be able to take care of this child."
873
00:58:14,419 --> 00:58:16,044
It was too much, it was looking right at me.
874
00:58:16,128 --> 00:58:19,503
So I went somewhere else
And I talked to a doctor...
875
00:58:19,586 --> 00:58:22,836
Because another child was born
and he was dying.
876
00:58:22,919 --> 00:58:24,628
And suddenly someone touched my hand...
877
00:58:24,711 --> 00:58:26,711
...I looked down, it was an albino child...
878
00:58:26,794 --> 00:58:29,003
...he was holding my hand.
879
00:58:29,086 --> 00:58:31,003
"Why are you doing this to me?"
I thought.
880
00:58:31,086 --> 00:58:35,836
It was like it was made into a compound
and it was causing me pain.
881
00:58:35,919 --> 00:58:38,378
It embarrassed me.
882
00:58:38,461 --> 00:58:40,419
I gave him candy from my pocket...
883
00:58:40,503 --> 00:58:44,836
...and he left,
He started licking the candy far away.
884
00:58:46,044 --> 00:58:48,919
Two year old children...
885
00:58:49,003 --> 00:58:53,378
...with their fingers hanging out
They were crawling on their stomachs.
886
00:58:53,461 --> 00:58:56,794
Never in my life this much
I didn't see anything scary.
887
00:58:56,878 --> 00:59:02,503
Inside of the back side
It was like it was upside down...
888
00:59:03,544 --> 00:59:05,128
...as if it had suddenly fallen...
889
00:59:05,211 --> 00:59:06,961
...and they were crawling around.
890
00:59:07,044 --> 00:59:10,128
Undersides�
While he had to go out for this...
891
00:59:10,211 --> 00:59:12,669
...flies were also surrounding them.
892
00:59:12,753 --> 00:59:17,419
It's worse than the madness in hell
I thought it was bad...
893
00:59:17,503 --> 00:59:19,919
...ever in your life
something you cannot experience.
894
00:59:20,003 --> 00:59:23,628
It wasn't real, it was scary, it was shocking.
895
00:59:23,711 --> 00:59:25,878
And you know what, almost...
896
00:59:27,253 --> 00:59:29,920
I was frozen.
897
00:59:30,003 --> 00:59:32,461
I was in trouble, so I thought...
898
00:59:32,545 --> 00:59:34,545
"Collect your mind, take some photos."
899
00:59:34,628 --> 00:59:38,795
And he said to me, "What you need to see
"There is a girl." they said.
900
00:59:38,878 --> 00:59:41,878
"Her name is Patience."
901
00:59:41,961 --> 00:59:44,211
They brought it and she was completely naked.
902
00:59:44,295 --> 00:59:46,753
He was 16 years old.
903
00:59:46,836 --> 00:59:50,420
days to die
There was even a day or two.
904
00:59:50,503 --> 00:59:52,586
"What do I do with this?" I thought.
905
00:59:52,670 --> 00:59:54,253
They made him sit...
906
00:59:54,336 --> 00:59:57,795
...and put his hands on the nurse...
907
00:59:57,878 --> 01:00:03,461
...to the lower part of your body
I asked if he could put it on.
908
01:00:03,545 --> 01:00:05,211
You know, because...
909
01:00:05,295 --> 01:00:08,670
"This is terrible, shocking
If I'm going to take a photo...
910
01:00:08,753 --> 01:00:12,378
...as honorable as I can
I have to do it, I have to get it together...
911
01:00:12,461 --> 01:00:15,461
...and at least the girl's nakedness
"I shouldn't use it." I thought.
912
01:00:21,586 --> 01:00:26,461
More people are just a few steps away from death
You have never seen an honorable person.
913
01:00:37,711 --> 01:00:40,003
One day a woman
I remember seeing it...
914
01:00:40,086 --> 01:00:42,253
...with their breasts
He was trying to feed.
915
01:00:42,336 --> 01:00:46,086
There was nothing in his chest for children.
916
01:00:46,170 --> 01:00:49,753
And I saw something written on the back,
A long distance away.
917
01:00:49,836 --> 01:00:53,170
And then I took the woman's photo...
918
01:00:53,253 --> 01:00:55,545
...believe it or not
Although he is 24 years old...
919
01:00:55,628 --> 01:00:57,461
...though it looked like 65.
920
01:00:57,545 --> 01:01:00,420
I went and saw on the wall
I read the article
921
01:01:00,503 --> 01:01:04,420
On the wall, "Today,
I am reborn." It was written.
922
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:14,628
That little inscription impressed me incredibly.
923
01:01:14,711 --> 01:01:17,420
You know, mostly a photo.
You are resilient as a person.
924
01:01:17,503 --> 01:01:21,378
You put yourself there, you don't ask...
925
01:01:21,461 --> 01:01:24,920
Why you are there,
You don't ask why you're leaving.
926
01:01:25,003 --> 01:01:27,086
And at the same time
You put yourself out there.
927
01:01:27,170 --> 01:01:29,461
You could refuse if you wanted.
I went there.
928
01:01:29,545 --> 01:01:32,253
But when I go there
these people's lives...
929
01:01:32,336 --> 01:01:36,836
...even while suffering his last pain,
Something that many of us cannot even imagine...
930
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,670
that they have as much dignity as...
I took a photo to show.
931
01:01:47,045 --> 01:01:49,003
BIAFRA, BRITAIN'S VAETNA
932
01:01:49,086 --> 01:01:50,753
BIAFRA A� WHILE BRITAIN IS STOPPED
933
01:01:50,836 --> 01:01:54,961
For fear that it will go in vain...
934
01:01:55,045 --> 01:01:59,128
...people dying on their feet...
935
01:02:00,170 --> 01:02:02,295
...to see directly...
936
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,878
...it affected him very much.
937
01:02:06,961 --> 01:02:10,045
For a soldier who always gets shot
He would empathize...
938
01:02:10,128 --> 01:02:13,461
...but here he was looking after civilians...
939
01:02:13,545 --> 01:02:16,961
...men and women
unaware of what is happening...
940
01:02:17,045 --> 01:02:19,461
...the opening of the power in this country
of living people...
941
01:02:19,545 --> 01:02:23,378
...they were dying for their ambitions.
942
01:02:38,336 --> 01:02:40,336
end of empire
943
01:02:49,045 --> 01:02:52,003
THE SUFFERING OF DRY LANDS
944
01:03:01,378 --> 01:03:03,336
THE SUNDAY TIMES magazine
945
01:03:06,336 --> 01:03:08,711
I've spent my whole life traveling.
946
01:03:08,795 --> 01:03:10,545
I was always on the move.
947
01:03:18,461 --> 01:03:20,420
I was always at London airport...
948
01:03:20,503 --> 01:03:22,670
...I was constantly saying goodbye to my little family.
949
01:03:23,836 --> 01:03:25,253
KAMPALA - THE CITY OF END��EN�
950
01:03:30,086 --> 01:03:32,795
CAMBODIA, 1970
951
01:03:34,211 --> 01:03:35,920
THE SUNDAY TIMES MAGAZINE
952
01:03:36,003 --> 01:03:38,295
As always, I was very eager...
953
01:03:38,378 --> 01:03:40,461
...at the front of the struggle
I was ambitious to be.
954
01:03:40,545 --> 01:03:41,670
Cambodia: The moment McCullin was shot
955
01:03:41,753 --> 01:03:44,378
What I do know is that we were ambushed...
956
01:03:44,461 --> 01:03:46,128
...and then all hell broke loose.
957
01:03:48,586 --> 01:03:52,961
We were under very heavy AK-47 fire.
958
01:03:53,045 --> 01:03:56,628
Suddenly I ran towards the side of the road...
959
01:03:56,711 --> 01:03:58,045
...it looked like a culvert.
960
01:04:00,170 --> 01:04:03,003
“A bullet hit my Nikon.
"I thought I was going to die."
961
01:04:03,086 --> 01:04:05,378
And "I should have pulled my tail out of here...
962
01:04:05,461 --> 01:04:09,128
...because a soldier under fire
If the picture comes into your life...
963
01:04:09,211 --> 01:04:11,170
...What would it mean if it were property?"
964
01:04:11,253 --> 01:04:13,420
For the first time, I was incredibly scared.
965
01:04:13,503 --> 01:04:16,295
I kneeled in the back of a jeep
and there was a big explosion.
966
01:04:16,378 --> 01:04:18,211
I flew towards the road.
967
01:04:18,295 --> 01:04:20,795
The fear in my legs
I felt the burning...
968
01:04:20,878 --> 01:04:23,003
...and it was everywhere from my waist down.
969
01:04:23,086 --> 01:04:25,086
And my whole past flashed before my eyes...
970
01:04:25,170 --> 01:04:26,961
"That's it, I'm going to die" I thought.
971
01:04:27,045 --> 01:04:30,670
I crawled about 200 meters...
972
01:04:30,753 --> 01:04:32,711
...I was put in the back of a truck...
973
01:04:32,795 --> 01:04:35,086
...only morphine was injected.
974
01:04:35,170 --> 01:04:37,295
And then the truck filled up...
975
01:04:37,378 --> 01:04:40,211
...about half a dozen
The soldier was injured.
976
01:04:40,586 --> 01:04:43,045
I thought I should forget my own pain.
977
01:04:43,128 --> 01:04:46,378
What's going on in this truck?
I had to photograph it.
978
01:04:48,003 --> 01:04:50,086
They put a man right next to me...
979
01:04:50,170 --> 01:04:53,086
...the bomb that hit me had hit him...
980
01:04:53,170 --> 01:04:56,920
...unfortunately his entire chest
And he was injured in his stomach.
981
01:04:57,003 --> 01:05:00,253
He tries to sit up and tries to make her lie down.
He was fighting with the employees.
982
01:05:00,336 --> 01:05:01,503
He was fighting.
983
01:05:02,961 --> 01:05:05,670
And in the back of the truck
He died on the way to the hospital...
984
01:05:05,753 --> 01:05:08,711
...��because� I made him sit down
And I took a photo of it.
985
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,086
“Take more risks
"I don't want to." I said.
986
01:05:11,295 --> 01:05:12,461
WHY THEY AND NOT ME?
987
01:05:12,628 --> 01:05:15,670
But when evaluating
They took all the risks...
988
01:05:15,753 --> 01:05:18,378
...because they had independent thoughts...
989
01:05:18,461 --> 01:05:22,503
...and if I were secretly happy about it
He would undo what he had done.
990
01:05:22,586 --> 01:05:24,753
However, next time...
991
01:05:24,836 --> 01:05:27,586
...and next time you think...
992
01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:30,003
"Thank God here
Russian roulette with their own lives...
993
01:05:30,086 --> 01:05:32,753
...I was thankful they didn't play."
994
01:05:33,670 --> 01:05:37,378
NORTHERN IRELAND, 1971
995
01:05:47,045 --> 01:05:49,378
It was interesting for me to get on the plane...
996
01:05:49,461 --> 01:05:51,461
...we were flying to Belfast...
997
01:05:51,545 --> 01:05:54,295
...we went to Londonderry
And we checked into a hotel.
998
01:05:55,753 --> 01:05:58,586
Approximately in the afternoon
Around 3:00...
999
01:05:58,670 --> 01:06:01,503
...that the bars are closed
You could be sure.
1000
01:06:01,586 --> 01:06:04,253
Prepare yourself
and you would know where it would be.
1001
01:06:04,336 --> 01:06:05,878
It was like a football match.
1002
01:06:05,961 --> 01:06:08,295
You would know where the action would be.
1003
01:06:11,420 --> 01:06:15,086
Bricks, bottles to the soldiers
and the stones were being thrown...
1004
01:06:15,170 --> 01:06:18,670
...and the soldiers use rubber bullets
and he was responding with pepper gas.
1005
01:06:18,753 --> 01:06:22,003
Regularly
I was used to eating gas.
1006
01:06:22,086 --> 01:06:24,837
But from the eyes of a photograph
You can't miss this.
1007
01:06:34,670 --> 01:06:38,670
It was really like a theatre.
It was like a game
1008
01:06:38,753 --> 01:06:43,045
You knew the script...
You've seen it many times before.
1009
01:07:05,128 --> 01:07:08,587
On this special day
I knew they would attack...
1010
01:07:08,670 --> 01:07:11,795
...and there my machine
I was standing with the short telephoto lens...
1011
01:07:12,045 --> 01:07:15,337
...and it's "Let's go get 'em"
I took a photo of it.
1012
01:07:17,128 --> 01:07:21,962
In front of the door of this taxi company
I wasn't fully aware of it...
1013
01:07:22,045 --> 01:07:27,503
...a woman is in shock,
He was standing with his mouth wide open.
1014
01:07:27,587 --> 01:07:30,462
This is my photo
�Made it much more touching.
1015
01:07:35,962 --> 01:07:37,878
I'VE BEEN TO VIETNAM FIFTEEN TIMES
EVEN IF, McCULLIN...
1016
01:07:37,962 --> 01:07:39,503
...IT WAS SENT BACK ONE LAST TIME
1017
01:07:39,587 --> 01:07:42,253
US POWERS WITHDRAWAL,
RELATED TO MILITARY OPERATIONS...
1018
01:07:42,337 --> 01:07:44,337
...RESPONSIBILITY
THEY LEFT IT TO THE SOUTH VETHENMEN
1019
01:07:44,420 --> 01:07:48,337
TO THIS POLICY
IT WAS CALLED ETHNAMEZATION
1020
01:07:48,420 --> 01:07:51,212
�COUNTRY B�TAP D��T��
AND THE END OF THE WAR appeared
1021
01:07:59,878 --> 01:08:02,087
I came across this highway...
1022
01:08:02,170 --> 01:08:04,878
...and I saw soldiers dying on the road...
1023
01:08:04,962 --> 01:08:07,712
...and a reporter for ITV
Michael Nicholson...
1024
01:08:07,795 --> 01:08:10,628
...named 'very close'
I was with a friend.
1025
01:08:10,712 --> 01:08:14,670
His wounds are on the road
It was melting like tar...
1026
01:08:14,753 --> 01:08:16,795
...�they were very hot.
1027
01:08:16,878 --> 01:08:19,212
We removed them from the road...
1028
01:08:19,295 --> 01:08:22,503
...and we carried it up to the hood of the Jeep.
1029
01:08:22,587 --> 01:08:25,253
I was standing in front of them
And I was leaning towards them...
1030
01:08:25,337 --> 01:08:29,628
...the army for first aid
We returned to the medical center.
1031
01:08:31,045 --> 01:08:32,628
How they were the next day...
1032
01:08:32,712 --> 01:08:34,795
...we went again to see,
But they were dead.
1033
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:47,420
Coming from that road and around his feet
with cardboard pieces...
1034
01:08:47,503 --> 01:08:49,837
...I took pictures of many people...
1035
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,837
...because they had thrown off their boots...
1036
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,295
...and of course on this path
They couldn't last long.
1037
01:08:57,087 --> 01:08:59,962
Everything was a mess.
1038
01:09:00,045 --> 01:09:03,628
It was like retreating from Moscow
It was completely chaotic.
1039
01:09:06,420 --> 01:09:10,295
And The Sunday Times
When he published these photos...
1040
01:09:10,378 --> 01:09:13,503
...government of South Vietnam
He blacklisted me...
1041
01:09:13,587 --> 01:09:16,420
...and I'm afraid of the existence of such a thing
I didn't even know about it
1042
01:09:20,170 --> 01:09:23,128
This is for me as a war photographer
gained a reputation...
1043
01:09:23,212 --> 01:09:26,087
...a reputation that I truly detest today.
1044
01:09:26,170 --> 01:09:30,420
I trained for this and suddenly I found myself
a war photo...
1045
01:09:30,503 --> 01:09:32,087
I found it as...
1046
01:09:32,170 --> 01:09:34,920
...suddenly I feel uncomfortable
and I felt dirty.
1047
01:09:35,003 --> 01:09:37,003
Being known as a war photographer
a para...
1048
01:09:37,087 --> 01:09:38,670
...made me feel like a soldier.
1049
01:09:50,545 --> 01:09:54,878
Looking back, my family was really bad
I thought he was in pain.
1050
01:09:54,962 --> 01:09:57,128
I was always saying goodbye to them...
1051
01:09:57,212 --> 01:09:59,462
...and they always had this thought in their minds...
1052
01:09:59,545 --> 01:10:01,837
"This strange man who was supposed to be our father..."
1053
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,087
...will we ever see you again?"
1054
01:10:06,545 --> 01:10:09,212
But do you know,
thinking emotionally...
1055
01:10:09,295 --> 01:10:12,420
...I didn't want to weaken my strength.
1056
01:10:12,503 --> 01:10:15,837
make the sign and then,
Hopefully, I wanted to return home.
1057
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,753
But now that I look at it, I see that
That was very selfish.
1058
01:10:19,670 --> 01:10:21,670
And it ended up destroying my marriage.
1059
01:10:25,295 --> 01:10:28,712
BEIRUT, 1976
1060
01:10:29,837 --> 01:10:33,378
RICH AND USUALLY HEALTHY IN LEBANON
ELITES RULE THE COUNTRY
1061
01:10:33,795 --> 01:10:36,128
LEFT GROUPS, MUSLIMS
AND THE PHILOSOPHISTANS...
1062
01:10:36,212 --> 01:10:38,337
...AMONG THE GUERRILLAS
TENSION INCREASED
1063
01:10:38,420 --> 01:10:40,420
PARTIES TO EACH OTHER
HE RESPONSES THE SAME WAY
1064
01:10:40,503 --> 01:10:42,462
THE FIRES OPEN ARE ONE
�� RETURNED TO WAR��
1065
01:10:42,545 --> 01:10:44,962
THEIR CASE AGAINST McCULLIN
TO MAKE NEWS...
1066
01:10:45,045 --> 01:10:48,170
...CHRISTIAN PHALANGISTS
APPROVED BY
1067
01:10:58,753 --> 01:11:02,587
Ashrafiyah, Maronite
It is the castle of Christians.
1068
01:11:02,670 --> 01:11:06,337
Falangist militias, Muslim leftists
held by...
1069
01:11:06,420 --> 01:11:08,045
...�to surrounding areas...
1070
01:11:08,128 --> 01:11:12,003
...and more Palestinian guerrillas
Opening fire on the groups' allies.
1071
01:11:12,087 --> 01:11:14,420
There was an incident every day in Lebanon.
1072
01:11:14,503 --> 01:11:19,462
Every day is terrible and new,
Various things were happening.
1073
01:11:19,545 --> 01:11:21,878
This photo is for all these Christians...
1074
01:11:21,962 --> 01:11:24,003
...they are proud of...
1075
01:11:24,087 --> 01:11:26,587
...their humanitarian side
I took it to show you.
1076
01:11:27,587 --> 01:11:30,920
And insolently, they all wore crosses.
1077
01:11:32,128 --> 01:11:34,753
And you know, think about it...
1078
01:11:34,837 --> 01:11:38,295
...in such a way
If you are going to view it, it is from Christianity...
1079
01:11:38,378 --> 01:11:40,128
...you expect more...
1080
01:11:40,212 --> 01:11:41,920
...and then under the name of Christianity...
1081
01:11:42,003 --> 01:11:44,920
...they do very bad things.
1082
01:11:45,003 --> 01:11:46,920
Politically, this situation...
1083
01:11:47,128 --> 01:11:48,837
...still at an impasse.
1084
01:11:49,128 --> 01:11:52,420
Trying to implement the ceasefire
Their efforts were in vain...
1085
01:11:52,503 --> 01:11:54,462
...and what to do...
1086
01:11:54,545 --> 01:11:56,170
...parliamentary initiatives pending...
1087
01:11:56,253 --> 01:11:58,253
The Palestine region was called Quarantine.
1088
01:11:58,337 --> 01:12:00,128
This place was like the eastern side of Beirut...
1089
01:12:00,212 --> 01:12:04,045
...exactly what Christianity
Where your heart is.
1090
01:12:04,128 --> 01:12:07,337
And that's just...
1091
01:12:07,420 --> 01:12:09,587
The word "go" turned into murder.
1092
01:12:17,378 --> 01:12:19,962
They started collecting the prisoners.
1093
01:12:21,003 --> 01:12:22,920
It was very quick.
1094
01:12:24,628 --> 01:12:28,045
The marriage of many women and children
I went to a house where I could hear it
1095
01:12:28,128 --> 01:12:30,628
A Christian,
He takes women and children...
1096
01:12:30,712 --> 01:12:33,295
...of the stairwell
He was taking it to the bottom...
1097
01:12:33,378 --> 01:12:35,295
...and I saw two Palestinians...
1098
01:12:35,378 --> 01:12:37,628
...young Palestinian men
hands in the air...
1099
01:12:37,712 --> 01:12:40,087
...on the left side of the stairwell.
1100
01:12:42,628 --> 01:12:46,253
At that moment the woman left the house...
1101
01:12:46,337 --> 01:12:50,003
...the man next to me,
And I was so close, so close...
1102
01:12:50,420 --> 01:12:53,670
...began to open fire and calmly
He killed these people immediately...
1103
01:12:53,753 --> 01:12:55,753
...and they were under a rain of bullets...
1104
01:12:55,837 --> 01:12:58,045
...and blood was splattered all over the wall.
1105
01:13:00,003 --> 01:13:02,545
I went around the back of the stairwell...
1106
01:13:02,628 --> 01:13:04,962
...in another space
I tried to come to my senses...
1107
01:13:05,045 --> 01:13:06,795
...because I was in trouble.
1108
01:13:06,878 --> 01:13:08,587
I couldn't believe what I saw.
1109
01:13:10,045 --> 01:13:12,920
I left the building
and there was another armed Christian...
1110
01:13:13,045 --> 01:13:15,920
...there were women and children
and told me, "By the way...
1111
01:13:16,003 --> 01:13:19,128
...if I see you taking photos
I will kill you.
1112
01:13:19,212 --> 01:13:20,503
Now get out of there." he said.
1113
01:13:23,837 --> 01:13:26,670
Everywhere I went that day...
1114
01:13:26,754 --> 01:13:29,545
in front of someone else's eyes
I was seeing him being killed.
1115
01:13:29,629 --> 01:13:31,004
Of course...
1116
01:13:31,087 --> 01:13:33,129
...of a dead Palestinian girl
her body in front of him...
1117
01:13:33,212 --> 01:13:36,837
...trying to play the oud
I took the man's photo.
1118
01:13:40,879 --> 01:13:42,920
They were very angry when it was published...
1119
01:13:43,004 --> 01:13:44,587
...and they said...
1120
01:13:44,670 --> 01:13:47,045
...if the person who took this photo
If they find the man...
1121
01:13:47,129 --> 01:13:48,962
...they were going to kill him.
1122
01:13:54,254 --> 01:13:56,420
In a way, for taking this photo...
1123
01:13:56,504 --> 01:13:58,629
...it was an honor that they wanted to kill me.
1124
01:14:03,087 --> 01:14:06,045
The 26-story Holiday Inn is on fire.
1125
01:14:06,129 --> 01:14:08,629
The third of the five-star hotel development...
1126
01:14:08,879 --> 01:14:10,795
...under fire.
1127
01:14:10,962 --> 01:14:13,170
This is the courtyard of the Hilton Hotel...
1128
01:14:13,254 --> 01:14:17,462
...and clashes all night long
continued here.
1129
01:14:17,545 --> 01:14:22,754
Muslims in the Christian region
When they were defeated...
1130
01:14:22,837 --> 01:14:24,170
...I was with them too.
1131
01:14:24,754 --> 01:14:28,087
They actually met at the Hilton Hotel.
1132
01:14:28,170 --> 01:14:31,087
And when they went there,
The Christians they took hostage...
1133
01:14:31,170 --> 01:14:34,587
...they took me to the top floor
and they wounded them...
1134
01:14:34,670 --> 01:14:38,962
...and for the sake of love,
They cut off some parts of them.
1135
01:14:39,045 --> 01:14:42,004
And from the top of the living building
They threw it down.
1136
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,670
When this kind of hatred occurs...
1137
01:14:46,754 --> 01:14:49,462
...it becomes a kind of madness.
1138
01:14:49,545 --> 01:14:54,254
This goes beyond anything you understand.
1139
01:14:54,337 --> 01:14:56,170
Of everything.
1140
01:15:03,712 --> 01:15:04,837
I don't know how he did it.
1141
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,170
He had a very sensitive conscience.
1142
01:15:08,254 --> 01:15:11,129
I would call it conscience with a camera.
1143
01:15:11,212 --> 01:15:15,795
To other people's suffering
He was sensitive to it.
1144
01:15:16,420 --> 01:15:19,837
This also gives him...
1145
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:24,337
..."�People are wondering what happened here
It gave me the power of "I can wake you up".
1146
01:15:24,420 --> 01:15:30,295
That's why sensitivity is evident in his paintings.
It had recoil power...
1147
01:15:30,379 --> 01:15:33,129
...his conscience became his ally...
1148
01:15:33,212 --> 01:15:34,879
…and “I have to do this story.
1149
01:15:34,962 --> 01:15:37,254
This story is just
"It is explained with photographs." he said.
1150
01:15:38,462 --> 01:15:40,629
The best part of his journalism...
1151
01:15:40,712 --> 01:15:44,212
...in your cold eyes,
If you want you can see...
1152
01:15:44,295 --> 01:15:48,420
...the warmth of empathy...
1153
01:15:48,629 --> 01:15:53,170
...and with texts
They were enhanced pictures.
1154
01:15:53,545 --> 01:15:55,337
This is the worst question I can ask you.
1155
01:15:55,420 --> 01:15:58,920
The photos of horror and war you took
someone's thoughts...
1156
01:15:59,004 --> 01:16:01,212
...do you think he changed it?
1157
01:16:01,295 --> 01:16:03,670
To be honest, I don't think so.
1158
01:16:03,754 --> 01:16:06,129
I've been fighting the war for almost 16 years...
1159
01:16:06,212 --> 01:16:08,295
...and I had great disappointments.
1160
01:16:08,379 --> 01:16:11,254
I opened an exhibition...
1161
01:16:11,337 --> 01:16:14,712
...and more to the exhibition
young people came.
1162
01:16:14,795 --> 01:16:18,962
I get so many letters...
1163
01:16:19,045 --> 01:16:21,420
...and those who wrote to me
mostly young people.
1164
01:16:21,504 --> 01:16:23,420
And people who care about war.
1165
01:16:23,504 --> 01:16:27,587
The rest of us, that is, are reluctant to say this.
I hate middle aged people...
1166
01:16:27,670 --> 01:16:30,087
...they saw the war, they saw enough.
1167
01:16:30,170 --> 01:16:32,879
And now about the war
They feel uncomfortable talking.
1168
01:16:32,962 --> 01:16:34,295
They think there is no solution.
1169
01:16:34,462 --> 01:16:37,754
But young people, the people of tomorrow...
1170
01:16:37,837 --> 01:16:40,754
...to do something about it
They are more interested.
1171
01:16:40,837 --> 01:16:42,879
They feel ashamed of this and cannot understand it.
1172
01:16:42,962 --> 01:16:46,129
Have you ever thought about
easy life and bra or different...
1173
01:16:46,337 --> 01:16:49,629
in the sun by shooting women wearing...
Why didn't you think about winning 500 pounds?
1174
01:16:50,045 --> 01:16:51,129
Or who doesn't wear a bra?
1175
01:16:51,212 --> 01:16:52,795
I could have had a heart attack.
1176
01:16:52,879 --> 01:16:54,212
Yes, probably.
1177
01:16:57,379 --> 01:16:59,504
Do you like this, sullen lover?
1178
01:16:59,587 --> 01:17:01,295
-Yes.
-Look here.
1179
01:17:01,379 --> 01:17:04,504
It would be nice if there was a face like this looking at you.
1180
01:17:08,420 --> 01:17:11,004
This is one of my favorite paintings.
1181
01:17:11,087 --> 01:17:12,754
I don't have many favorites.
1182
01:17:12,837 --> 01:17:15,795
A classic example of coercion...
1183
01:17:16,504 --> 01:17:19,670
...but it shows being British.
1184
01:17:19,754 --> 01:17:22,004
The chaise longue says it all, doesn't it?
1185
01:17:22,545 --> 01:17:25,629
The only thing about England is,
All kinds of writing...
1186
01:17:25,712 --> 01:17:29,212
...where you can find interesting people.
1187
01:17:30,837 --> 01:17:32,170
There is no other... No, I don't think so...
1188
01:17:32,254 --> 01:17:34,462
...another country similar to this country...
1189
01:17:34,545 --> 01:17:38,045
...that's it for people's expressions
There is no point where it is different
1190
01:17:38,129 --> 01:17:40,254
Like eccentrics.
1191
01:17:40,337 --> 01:17:43,504
There's a bus full of them in England
you can find it. I love this.
1192
01:17:52,462 --> 01:17:54,462
SAVE OUR CITIES
Surviving in Bradford
1193
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,129
THE SUNDAY TIMES magazine
1194
01:18:10,629 --> 01:18:14,629
NO PLACE FOR NAZI IN BRADFORD
1195
01:18:37,754 --> 01:18:41,420
SUNDAY, WITHOUT THE SUNDAY TIMES
IT IS NOT A MARKET
1196
01:18:42,129 --> 01:18:44,462
AMONG THE UNIONS IN THE LATE 1970s
THERE WAS A DISPUTE
1197
01:18:44,545 --> 01:18:46,254
AND THE MANAGEMENT OF THE TIMES NEWSPAPER HAS BEEN WEAKED
1198
01:18:46,337 --> 01:18:48,504
THEY WERE LOSING MONEY
AND THERE WAS NO SOLUTION TO THE SITUATION
1199
01:18:48,587 --> 01:18:50,837
FINALLY THE THOMSON FAMILY
HE PUT THE NEWSPAPER FOR SALE
1200
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,545
INTERNATIONAL NEWSLETTER IN 1981
RUPERT MURDOCH BOUGHT THE TIMES
1201
01:18:53,629 --> 01:18:57,462
AND THE SUNDAY TIMES A NEW
PUBLICATION ADMINISTRATED
1202
01:19:03,462 --> 01:19:07,087
Print publishing unions
When he sabotaged The Sunday Times...
1203
01:19:07,170 --> 01:19:08,879
...they essentially killed the newspaper.
1204
01:19:08,962 --> 01:19:11,879
Thomson organization
"We can't continue like this.
1205
01:19:11,962 --> 01:19:14,587
"We can't spend this much paper." he said.
1206
01:19:14,670 --> 01:19:17,420
Not just physically
but also economically.
1207
01:19:17,504 --> 01:19:19,545
And they put the newspaper up for sale.
1208
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,962
Rupert Murdoch's
Even though the past was difficult...
1209
01:19:25,045 --> 01:19:28,754
...in the print media
that it will get better...
1210
01:19:29,045 --> 01:19:32,337
...they had a perception, a judgment.
1211
01:19:33,587 --> 01:19:37,254
And in some ways, it was a fair judgment.
1212
01:19:37,379 --> 01:19:39,545
You've suffered enough, I really think...
1213
01:19:39,712 --> 01:19:41,795
And Mr Evans is with Mr Murdoch.
1214
01:19:41,962 --> 01:19:44,129
Mr. Evans. Yes.
1215
01:19:44,212 --> 01:19:48,462
Independence of newspapers
He made promises that he would protect...
1216
01:19:48,545 --> 01:19:50,254
...but none of them caught on.
1217
01:19:50,337 --> 01:19:52,920
And this of course
For British journalism...
1218
01:19:54,754 --> 01:19:56,462
...it was very, very bad news.
1219
01:19:56,545 --> 01:20:00,879
But also, especially Don McCullin
It was bad news for him too.
1220
01:20:00,962 --> 01:20:02,962
When Murdoch bought The Sunday Times...
1221
01:20:03,045 --> 01:20:05,920
...and Harold Evans,
When it comes to The Times newspaper...
1222
01:20:06,004 --> 01:20:07,920
...all of us, you know...
1223
01:20:08,004 --> 01:20:10,795
towards the beginning of the end
We felt like we were looking.
1224
01:20:11,337 --> 01:20:14,587
I had a wonderful 18 years there.
1225
01:20:14,670 --> 01:20:17,920
With the precious independence he has...
1226
01:20:18,004 --> 01:20:21,920
...and just go straight to the point...
1227
01:20:22,004 --> 01:20:25,837
...telling it with a movie frame
It was risky now.
1228
01:20:25,921 --> 01:20:27,546
And it has proven to be so.
1229
01:20:52,254 --> 01:20:55,379
At dawn the Falklands War was visible...
1230
01:20:55,712 --> 01:20:58,296
...and "I should be in this."
I thought.
1231
01:20:58,379 --> 01:21:00,796
For the first time in my life...
1232
01:21:00,879 --> 01:21:04,212
...with British soldiers
I would be in an international war.
1233
01:21:04,296 --> 01:21:07,087
I thought I was the person for this.
1234
01:21:07,171 --> 01:21:09,629
But I was in a daze,
I was rejected.
1235
01:21:10,587 --> 01:21:12,421
It didn't happen.
1236
01:21:12,504 --> 01:21:17,796
I was left behind,
I was miserable and miserable.
1237
01:21:19,921 --> 01:21:23,921
Getting Don McCullin off the ship
It was a terrible decision...
1238
01:21:24,004 --> 01:21:26,712
...just like the ship is full
With a ridiculous justification.
1239
01:21:28,921 --> 01:21:33,462
They wanted to say,
"Your photos are so honest...
1240
01:21:33,546 --> 01:21:36,796
...it's very hot, its meanings are very fabricated...
1241
01:21:36,879 --> 01:21:41,962
...we can't take this risk, freedom of expression
"We cannot intervene."
1242
01:21:42,046 --> 01:21:43,962
I thought this was a terrible decision.
1243
01:21:44,046 --> 01:21:47,379
And the effect it had on him was like...
1244
01:21:47,462 --> 01:21:51,296
"The events of his whole life
You spent time documenting...
1245
01:21:51,379 --> 01:21:54,421
...but we document
"We don't think it is necessary."
1246
01:21:54,504 --> 01:21:59,171
And of course it also meant,
"Why are you bothering?
1247
01:21:59,254 --> 01:22:03,254
Why are you trying to tell the truth?
Are you risking your life?"
1248
01:22:07,379 --> 01:22:11,254
That's why I came back to Lebanon...
1249
01:22:11,337 --> 01:22:13,046
...because I couldn't go to the Falklands.
1250
01:22:13,129 --> 01:22:15,796
The Lebanon War broke out at the same time.
1251
01:22:15,879 --> 01:22:18,129
You know it will always go away
I have another place.
1252
01:22:18,212 --> 01:22:21,254
If I couldn't go to this war, I would go to the other one.
1253
01:22:21,337 --> 01:22:26,754
Because I was suffering from what I was,
I had become a war addict.
1254
01:22:26,837 --> 01:22:29,087
This problem was causing me pain.
1255
01:22:29,504 --> 01:22:31,212
Massacres...
1256
01:22:31,296 --> 01:22:35,004
...of the Lebanese Christian Detachment
belonging to your home...
1257
01:22:35,087 --> 01:22:37,796
...an elite private security
It takes place through its formation.
1258
01:22:37,879 --> 01:22:40,587
All stages of operations...
1259
01:22:40,671 --> 01:22:44,462
...�high level Phalange
It is in the hands of their commanders.
1260
01:22:44,754 --> 01:22:48,504
At the beginning of the massacre in the Atila camp...
1261
01:22:48,587 --> 01:22:53,296
...�Israeli forces with firecrackers
They created a powerful dam...
1262
01:22:53,379 --> 01:22:57,129
...of the Phalange forces in Sabra
They were revealing their camp.
1263
01:22:57,962 --> 01:22:59,712
BEIRUT SIEGE IN THE SUMMER OF 1982...
1264
01:22:59,796 --> 01:23:03,504
... SINCE 1976�
IT WAS THE CONTINUATION OF THE ONGOING WAR
1265
01:23:04,587 --> 01:23:07,129
THIS TIME ���ISRA�L
AND WITH THE SYRIAN FORCES...
1266
01:23:07,212 --> 01:23:10,046
...INTERNATIONAL MEDIATORS ALSO
HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE INCIDENT
1267
01:23:11,379 --> 01:23:14,462
BUT THIS IS IN SABRA AND 'AT�LA�
IN REFUGEE CAMPS, PHALANGIST FORCES...
1268
01:23:14,546 --> 01:23:18,212
...�� �WHILE �LIQUID �ON IT�
HE COULD NOT PREVENT HIM FROM MURDERING
1269
01:23:18,296 --> 01:23:22,171
THIS IS McCULLIN'S SUNDAY TIMES
THE LAST THING HE DID WAS A GREAT THING
1270
01:23:59,212 --> 01:24:01,671
Early one morning while at the hotel...
1271
01:24:01,754 --> 01:24:03,296
...I received a phone call...
1272
01:24:03,421 --> 01:24:06,296
"Are you Mr. McCullin?" he asked,
"Yes" I said.
1273
01:24:06,379 --> 01:24:08,962
"Would you like to go down to the lobby?
1274
01:24:09,046 --> 01:24:12,921
Take you to the hospital in Sabra and �atila
"We want to take it." he said.
1275
01:24:15,379 --> 01:24:18,546
21 people in hospital
They said he was killed.
1276
01:24:18,712 --> 01:24:20,212
"But we're not interested in that..."
1277
01:24:20,296 --> 01:24:22,379
...what happened here today...
1278
01:24:22,462 --> 01:24:24,337
...we want to show your scariest side."
1279
01:24:24,421 --> 01:24:27,837
Take me up,
They took him to the pediatric department...
1280
01:24:27,921 --> 01:24:30,754
...it was on the inner side of the hospital.
1281
01:24:30,837 --> 01:24:32,712
And I was surprised,
There was only one nurse...
1282
01:24:32,796 --> 01:24:35,087
...during the bombing
They stayed for five days...
1283
01:24:35,171 --> 01:24:37,587
...and others escaped from the hospital.
1284
01:24:43,212 --> 01:24:47,671
He showed me around
And I couldn't believe what I saw.
1285
01:24:48,462 --> 01:24:51,962
“�children� to bed
We have to start." he said.
1286
01:24:52,046 --> 01:24:54,296
"Because we can't cope.
1287
01:24:54,379 --> 01:24:56,546
They may run away and get injured." he said.
1288
01:24:56,629 --> 01:24:59,212
There were children tied to the bed...
1289
01:24:59,296 --> 01:25:03,421
...they were surrounded by flies,
In the heat, you couldn't tell.
1290
01:25:03,504 --> 01:25:07,171
These children,
They were lying in their own filth...
1291
01:25:07,254 --> 01:25:09,629
...they were suffering from hunger and thirst.
1292
01:25:25,921 --> 01:25:28,712
“There is a room with more children.
1293
01:25:28,962 --> 01:25:33,629
I had to lock them in the room,
The blind and the mad.” he said.
1294
01:25:33,712 --> 01:25:36,587
"And some are only two years old." he said.
1295
01:25:36,754 --> 01:25:40,004
Then he opened the door of the room,
A warmth came out...
1296
01:25:40,087 --> 01:25:43,171
...you could cook chicken inside.
1297
01:25:43,254 --> 01:25:48,004
Take the dirt and mess out
It came right and...
1298
01:25:48,087 --> 01:25:51,629
These children looked like shrews.
1299
01:25:51,712 --> 01:25:57,421
none of my humanity
I've never been this embarrassed. I thought...
1300
01:25:57,504 --> 01:26:03,754
"In the name of Christianity or
Anyway, if he can do this..."
1301
01:26:04,879 --> 01:26:07,796
Because war Christians
It was run by...
1302
01:26:07,879 --> 01:26:10,004
...or Christians
He was responding...
1303
01:26:10,087 --> 01:26:12,129
...and the Jews shores
He was bombarding them.
1304
01:26:12,212 --> 01:26:16,254
I mean, it's all
They were religious follies.
1305
01:26:16,337 --> 01:26:18,379
So who was paying for this?
1306
01:26:18,462 --> 01:26:22,837
I zoomed out. I was in a very deep hole.
1307
01:26:22,921 --> 01:26:25,754
I thought, "I'm confused here.
Why am I here?
1308
01:26:25,837 --> 01:26:31,171
This situation is my original photo
What does it add to my concept of being?
1309
01:26:35,462 --> 01:26:37,004
I went to another room...
1310
01:26:37,087 --> 01:26:40,629
...from all these terrible things
To get away.
1311
01:26:40,712 --> 01:26:44,921
And playing with the debris
I saw a child...
1312
01:26:45,921 --> 01:26:47,754
...as if it were Lego.
1313
01:26:52,296 --> 01:26:54,754
This is a day of reckoning for me
I thought it was...
1314
01:26:54,837 --> 01:26:58,629
...�because before, under one roof
What I saw that day in that hospital...
1315
01:26:58,712 --> 01:27:02,296
...as big as
I had left the tragedy untouched.
1316
01:27:02,379 --> 01:27:03,879
I could never forget it.
1317
01:27:10,796 --> 01:27:14,212
I can't forget about those days
The saddest thing...
1318
01:27:14,379 --> 01:27:18,046
...they come back regularly...
1319
01:27:18,129 --> 01:27:21,712
...they are new as if they are happening today
and they catch me�
1320
01:27:32,546 --> 01:27:35,546
There is nothing as powerful as journalism.
1321
01:27:35,671 --> 01:27:39,963
Governments what reporters found
Can't find things.
1322
01:27:40,046 --> 01:27:42,046
And most governments...
1323
01:27:42,129 --> 01:27:44,921
...wants to hide the things found...
1324
01:27:45,004 --> 01:27:48,046
...foreign governments and sometimes our own.
1325
01:27:48,129 --> 01:27:53,171
About what Don is
Passion for reporting...
1326
01:27:53,254 --> 01:27:57,546
...and having instinct
A very important feature.
1327
01:27:57,629 --> 01:28:02,879
And today, a huge amount of this is disappearing,
We lost most of it...
1328
01:28:02,963 --> 01:28:05,963
...and I still have a really good...
1329
01:28:06,046 --> 01:28:10,463
...photojournalist, a good reporter
I think there is a desire to be.
1330
01:28:10,546 --> 01:28:13,046
Mr Murdoch on Budget Day...
1331
01:28:13,129 --> 01:28:16,629
...to me The Times editor
He offered me to be.
1332
01:28:16,713 --> 01:28:18,629
I refused.
1333
01:28:18,713 --> 01:28:24,213
Independent national without wasting time
The managers asked for my resignation.
1334
01:28:26,504 --> 01:28:28,296
But under these conditions...
1335
01:28:28,379 --> 01:28:33,504
...between me and Mr Murdoch
The differences did not last long.
1336
01:28:33,588 --> 01:28:37,963
To become an editor at The Times
I left there.
1337
01:28:38,046 --> 01:28:42,004
Reason for my dismissal from The Sunday Times
It was very simple actually.
1338
01:28:42,088 --> 01:28:43,921
They hired a new editor.
1339
01:28:44,004 --> 01:28:48,296
This guy named Andrew Neil
He was very ambitious and quiet...
1340
01:28:48,379 --> 01:28:50,088
He knew what he wanted.
1341
01:28:50,171 --> 01:28:52,338
Many new editors are under them...
1342
01:28:52,421 --> 01:28:55,296
...to work with new people
He wanted to start.
1343
01:28:55,379 --> 01:28:59,754
But there are more wars in that magazine.
He said it wouldn't happen.
1344
01:28:59,838 --> 01:29:05,713
Instead of advertising in the magazine
To be able to shoot...
1345
01:29:05,796 --> 01:29:07,838
...it would be a life and entertainment magazine.
1346
01:29:07,921 --> 01:29:11,254
Therefore I would be the first to be evicted
��because� I...
1347
01:29:11,338 --> 01:29:13,879
...when I went to Africa
and the souls died...
1348
01:29:13,963 --> 01:29:16,171
...and starving to death
When I photographed the children...
1349
01:29:16,338 --> 01:29:20,504
...most powerful photos
I was sure I had shot...
1350
01:29:20,588 --> 01:29:23,463
...but they always give you
selling cars and luxury...
1351
01:29:23,546 --> 01:29:27,588
...they were not participating in a magazine.
1352
01:29:28,171 --> 01:29:31,546
That's why I had to leave the stage.
1353
01:30:00,171 --> 01:30:05,004
I give him an opportunity for execution in Saigon
I asked if it was...
1354
01:30:05,088 --> 01:30:07,963
...and as far as I remember
There will be execution...
1355
01:30:08,046 --> 01:30:10,046
...went to prison...
1356
01:30:10,129 --> 01:30:14,046
...and then he came right back
and he refused my request to take a photo
1357
01:30:14,129 --> 01:30:18,171
Because of his strong humanitarian drive...
1358
01:30:18,254 --> 01:30:22,713
...the murders in any way
He didn't want to legitimize it.
1359
01:30:22,796 --> 01:30:26,671
With the first camera
since the day it was introduced...
1360
01:30:26,754 --> 01:30:29,879
...�violence is illegal���
He was trying to make...
1361
01:30:29,963 --> 01:30:33,879
...and "Look, these
They are the results of political decisions.
1362
01:30:33,963 --> 01:30:36,546
They are the results of your greed.
1363
01:30:36,629 --> 01:30:39,588
They are the results of your carelessness.
1364
01:30:39,671 --> 01:30:41,671
"Look at these and think again." he said.
1365
01:30:41,754 --> 01:30:44,213
I think this was completely correct.
1366
01:30:44,296 --> 01:30:50,463
From my perspective, it's a tremendous
with technical skill...
1367
01:30:50,546 --> 01:30:52,879
...a genius human photograph.
1368
01:30:59,838 --> 01:31:03,046
�I am almost 75 years old now.
1369
01:31:03,129 --> 01:31:06,171
I still have energy, although not much.
1370
01:31:06,254 --> 01:31:10,879
But almost all of my life,
The things we talked about...
1371
01:31:10,963 --> 01:31:13,254
...I spent it to eliminate it.
1372
01:31:13,338 --> 01:31:15,588
Now I just shoot nature.
1373
01:31:15,671 --> 01:31:18,421
And 'British lands' for me...
1374
01:31:18,504 --> 01:31:21,921
...heaven looks like heaven.
1375
01:31:24,421 --> 01:31:27,838
The only thing that bothers me like other things...
1376
01:31:27,921 --> 01:31:31,254
...the things you've always loved
being under threat.
1377
01:31:32,046 --> 01:31:35,713
When I heard the sound of a saw in the distance...
1378
01:31:35,796 --> 01:31:37,254
...I think a tree is dead.
1379
01:31:37,338 --> 01:31:40,754
When the pheasant becomes prey,
When I heard a gunshot...
1380
01:31:40,838 --> 01:31:43,171
...I think there is blood flowing somewhere.
1381
01:31:43,254 --> 01:31:45,629
Incoming gunshot...
1382
01:31:45,713 --> 01:31:49,254
...affects my nervous system
1383
01:31:52,171 --> 01:31:58,046
Although these kinds of things
Even though I try to escape...
1384
01:31:58,129 --> 01:32:01,213
...it's like someone comes and pushes the button and...
1385
01:32:01,296 --> 01:32:06,004
"For the things you've bought
Just a reminder." he says.
1386
01:32:26,963 --> 01:32:29,338
reporting from the front lines
since you left...
1387
01:32:29,421 --> 01:32:31,546
...Don McCullin reputation...
1388
01:32:31,629 --> 01:32:35,338
...many associations and campaigns
used to support his group
1389
01:32:35,421 --> 01:32:39,629
Don was awarded the British Imperial Order in 1993
He became the first photojournalist to receive this honor.
1390
01:32:39,713 --> 01:32:40,963
His book of photographs...
1391
01:32:41,046 --> 01:32:45,546
...Southern Borders: To the Roman Empire
The Journey was published in 2010
1392
01:32:45,629 --> 01:32:48,879
His archive is still preserved for later generations...
1393
01:32:48,963 --> 01:32:51,421
...is assembled and archived.
1394
01:32:52,213 --> 01:32:55,338
Harold Evans in the Sunday Times
He worked as an editor for 14 years...
1395
01:32:55,421 --> 01:32:58,379
...and many during his time
There was scandal and injustice.
1396
01:32:58,629 --> 01:33:04,921
His dedication to journalism in 2004
He received the Knight's Order for his services
1397
01:33:05,504 --> 01:33:11,796
In 2011, Thomson-Reuters
became editor